- What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles? (You MAY need outside research for this question)
- Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
- Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
- Was the treaty too harsh?
- Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
- How did the Treaty of St. Germain and The Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
Tuesday, October 29, 2013
The Treaty of Versailles
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Ms.Noce
1. What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles?
The “people” that came up with the Treaty of Versailles were the “big three” (Wilson, Clemenceau and Lloyd George) all wanted different punishments to Germany alone, Clemenceau (France) wanted an extreme punishment to the Germany, wanting to make them pay for all the damage caused, return land that belong to the original nation and to make Germans military lose its major power by decreasing the size. Wilson wanted equal peace for all nations unlike other nations which wanted Germany to take full blame, the 14 points were the statements that made the peace he wished fair for everyone. And Lloyd George which didn’t want much but “A ‘Just’ peace that would be tough enough to please the electors who wanted to make Germany pay, but would leave Germany strong enough to trade”. These were the aims and motive of the “big three” or the victorious power in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles.
2. Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
I think the Treaty was not a fair one because I think German should not take full responsibility on causing the war. There were many events that happened before the assassination of Franz Ferdinand and they were later on negotiated without a world war unlike the assassination event. Also I think Germany didn’t really justify their response, they were being forced to sign the treaty which made Germany military lose major power
3. Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In
YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
The Germans objected the Treaty for various reasons. One reason was that Nations opposing the Treaty of Versailles promised Wilson’s 14 points (some of the points) to be on the treaty so it wouldn’t make the treaty so “harsh”. But on the other side according to history this was a claim from the Germans saying that they would include Wilson 14 points, so they could be lying. In general Germany itself thinks the Treaty of Versailles wasn’t fair giving Germany the “bill” for the damage they caused on other nations.
4. Was the treaty too harsh?
In my opinion I do think the Treaty of Versailles was too harsh. Why? Because Germany was not the only country that destroyed other nations land. Also I don’t think Germany should take in full blame for being (even though they took many lands that belonged to other nations) responsible for causing the war because I think The assassination of Franz Ferdinand was the main cause, this was an event that led to World War 1 and it was possible to be prevented but A-H didn’t work hard enough, so yes the treaty was too harsh. Also Germany were promised that some of Wilson’s 14 points to be including in the treaty and that never happened, they criticized the treaty a lot on that part. Germany also never got a chance to make negotiations with other nations.
5. Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
No, not at all I think the Treaty of Versailles was the cause for World War one because the treaty wasn’t fair, it gave Germany full blame for causing the war which probably made Germany and its allies angry with the nations opposing the Treaty of Versailles.
6. How did the Treaty of St. Germain and The Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and
ReplyDeleteHungary with economic problems?
The Treaty of St Germain which was signed in 1919 mainly dealt with Austria. Because of this Treaty, Austria lost Bohemia and Moravia which were very rich industrial department with over 10 million people living on that area, they lost Bohemia to a new state of Czechoslovakia. Austria also lost Dalmatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina to Serbia also Bukovina to Romania and so on. This was a economic problem because; for example Austria lost a very rich industrial department which potentially was an advantage to Austria. The Treaty of Trianon mainly dealt with Hungary which was signed 1920 because of political issues. All the land that Hungary attained during the war was given back to the nations that it belonged just like Hungary.
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Ms.Noce
1.What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles?
-The people who came up with this treaty was Wilson, Clemenceu, and Lloyd. The treaty was mostly to attack Germany in anyway. Clemenceu really liked the idea of this treaty because now Germany would be weakend. In this treaty Germany lost land in Europe. This hit Germany in a big way, also there colonies were taken from them. In Wilson's 14 points it talked about peace, but in this peace settlement Germany was taken the fall. Lastly Germany had to pay for damages and was expected to pay €6600 million.
2.Was the treaty a fair one? Was the Germans response justified?
-To me I think it was unfair because Germany took all the blame. I felt like everybody put there two cents in, so it should be fair everybody pay for the war equel, meaning repairs. Germany wasn't justified because if you didn't agree with the treaty there were problems that will occour. For Germany was a lose lose.
3.Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In YOUR OWN WORDS describe why Germans objected.
-The Germans were objecting real strongly to this treaty. They felt as the 14 points were just a cheat becauses the Germans didn't get no promises based on the 14 points. In the 14 points it said "Germany should pay" and they were going to take away land. For me looking back at page 35, it seemed that Germany really didn't have a valid point to me reason why Germany couldn't do nothing.
4. Was the Treaty too harsh ?
-Depends on what side your on. If you was on the bad side of thr treaty, yrs it was harsh to the extreme. Germany was on the bad side of it so to Germany it was, loosing everything and paying for the war was a big blow to them. Since they thought Germany started everything, allies didn't want to hear what they had to say. So yes I think it was harsh because Germany wasn't the only one in war.
5.Do you feel that the Treaty of Versallies accomplished peace?
-The Treaty of Versallies wasn't peaceful, well to some people. I think the treaty triggered something in Germany that made them wanna strike back. Not knowing nothing but I think this is the reason of World War Two.
6.How did the Treaty of ST. Germain and the Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Economic problems ?
-First the treaty of Germain was signed in 1919 and was dealing more with Austria. Austria lost Bohemia and Moravia, which were largely populated. Also lost Dalmatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina to Sebria. Both these treatys were taken something away like the Treaty of Trianon, which dealed more with Hungary. Hungary lost Slovakia and Ruthenia also to Czechoslovakia which was a new state. They also lost Croatia and Slovena to Yugoslavia.
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The Treaty of Versailles
1.What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles?
The Treaty of Versailles was created by the “big 3” which consisted of President Woodrow Wilson on the USA, Georges Clemenceau of France, and Prime David Lloyd George of Britain. Wilson had just wanted a treaty that was based on his 14 points. He wanted his 14 points to be included in the treaty so that it would prevent another war outbreak. Clemenceau on the other hand, had different intentions. Clemenceau had wanted to use the treaty to reclaim Alsace-Lorraine and to thoroughly cripple Germany’s economy and military so that Germany would no longer pose a threat to France. Lloyd George hadn’t wanted anything in particular. For him, a treaty that would make Germany pay while still keeping them strong enough to trade would suffice.
2.Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
The Treaty of Versailles definitely wasn’t fair for Germany because it held too many restrictions on them. I felt that some of Germany’s objections were definitely justified such as objecting to the strict limitation of armaments. Germany had claimed that a maximum of 100,000 troops was simply not enough to keep law and order in a time of political unrest. The war guilt clause was another thing I thought was unfair. Blaming the outbreak of war solely on Germany was unfair because Germany was just another country that was dragged into war due to the many chains of alliances made.
3.Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
Germany had objected the treaty of Versailles for a number of reasons. One reason why is because Germany had thought that the terms were going to be based on Wilson’s 14 points. Some didn’t see this as a valid objection because the 14 points had never been officially accepted. Germany had also had many objections to the reparation cost. £6600 million was just too much for Germany to pay even defaulted on their annual installments.
4.Was the treaty too harsh?
ReplyDeleteThe treaty was definitely cruel to Germany especially when it stated that the Germans would pay reparations which in total cost £6600 million. Historians today believe that £6600 million was far too high of a price for the German to repay and even some people back then had believed so as well. J.M Keynes, Britain’s economic adviser, had advocated that the allied forces take £2000 million which he thought was more affordable for Germany.
5.Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
I feel that the “peace” accomplished by the Treaty of Versailles was something forced upon nations rather than something agreed upon by nations. The Germans had no other choice but to sign the treaty even though they didn’t agree with what it said. In my eyes, the Treaty of Versailles was the allied power’s way of suppressing and weakening Germany because they believed Germany should have been punished for starting the war.
6.How did the Treaty of St. Germain and The Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
The treaty of St. Germnain and the treaty of Trainon had left Austria and Hungary with economic problems because they caused both nations had lost a great amount of territory. Austria’s population had reduced from 22 million to 6.5 million with most of its industrial wealth going to Czechoslovakia and Poland. Austria had constantly sought aid from the loans given to them by the League of Nations because of the severe economic crises it was facing. With new states came new tariffs that were quickly put into place. These tariffs tampered with the flow of trade in the Danube area which made the industrial recovery of Austria a difficult process. As for Hungary, her population was reduced from 21 million to 7.5 million with some of her richest corn land lost to Romania.
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1.What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles?
ReplyDelete- Everyone had some sort of plan to deal with the Central powers after the war. For example U.S President Woodrow Wilson had a couple of ideas on what to do such as the removal of economic barriers from between the states, independence for most of the states who didn’t have it like Austria, Poland, and the non-Turkish people of the Turkish empire. He also wanted things like restoration of Belgium. But the other Allied powers had different ideas in mind. They wanted Germany to lose a lot of land they had retained before the war such as Alsace-Lorraine given back to France. They wanted to take their territory in Africa, which was given to the British. They also wanted to limit German troops to a small number of 100,000 men this meant no tanks, armored cars, military aircraft or submarines, and they were limited to only 6 battleships. The Allied powers put all the blame on Germany and wanted them to pay for all the damages and destruction caused during the war, which was a high price of 6600 million euros.
2.Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
- In my opinion AND the Germans opinion the treaty was not fair. Even though President Wilson tried to make it fair, the other Allied powers had other ideas, which caused the Treaty of Versailles to be targeted mostly at the Germans. The Germans had no choice but to sign the treaty because they were not allowed in the discussion they were only given the terms and was told to sign it. They did have the right to criticize it in writing. But all their criticism was ignored except one But the German objection was justified to a certain extent
3.Describe why the Germans objected.
- The Germans objected mainly cause the whole Treaty of Versailles was practically targeted at them. The Allied powers tried limiting their troops to 100,000 which the Germans claimed wasn’t enough to keep the people of Germany calm in which they said would be in restless rage with the agreements of the treaty. The Germans didn’t only object for that one reason, there’s plenty more such as them objecting to all the land they lost and how it was unfair they lost their territory in Africa and the British were able to get ahold of it. Basically everything the Allied powers wanted it involved the Germans getting hurt economically. The Germans knew the Allied powers were trying to put all the blame for war on them and if they agree then they would have to pay for all the reparations, which was the ultimate humiliation towards the Germans.
4.Was the treaty too harsh?
ReplyDelete- Yes the Treaty was too harsh, for the payment of the war the Allies wanted 6600 million euros which was impossible to pay especially after the loss they had suffered from the war. J. M. Keynes was an economic advisory for the British and he tried to get the Allies to charge the Germans 2000 million euros, which he felt was a reasonable amount to charge. They Allies purpose on charging them so much was so that they can pay of the debt to the U.S. The French did get in trouble (or caused international tension) when they tried to force the Germans to pay it, but soon enough realizing their mistake they had reduced the amount to 2000 million euros.
5.Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
- I feel as if the Treaty of Versailles did not accomplish peace and probably had little to do with WW2. The whole point of this treaty in my point of view was to create peace and to prevent another world war, but I feel like all the things they tried to make the Germans agree on, and all the things they took from the Germans was abuse of power all because they won, and therefore was not peaceful later on.
6.How did the Treaty of St. Germain and the Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
- During the verge of defeat during the war, Austria and Hungary split. As they both split they declared themselves both as republics. The treaty of St. Germain delt with Austria and in this treaty they lost Bohemia and Moravia, both of those being wealthy industrial provinces. They lost that to a new state called Czechoslovakia. Basically the new treaty had them lose a lot of land/territory to other states, which could probably cause financial problems for Austria. The Treaty of Trianon was directed towards Hungary. They lost land/territory also to other states. The League of Nations (A group of countries formed to prevent world wars from occurring again, and believed to search for peace and resolve problems without war) was in both treaties.
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1. What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles?
ReplyDeleteThe creators of the Treaty of Versailles were Wilson, Clemenceau, and Lloyd George. An aim that Lloyd wanted was there to be peaceful way to give Germany their punishment and still let Germany trade with other countries. An aim that Clemenceau wanted was for Germany to pay for all of the damage they have created, also to give back all the land that belonged to the countries they took it form. An aim that Wilson wanted was for every country that was involved to take the blame equally.
2. Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
I think that Treaty wasn’t fair for Germany just because of the fact that the Germans took all of the blame while many other countries were involved in the war. I think in order to make it fair every single country that was in the war should go half and half on every single damage. Germanys response wasn’t justified because they were forced to sign the treaty.
3. Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
The reason why Germany objected to the Treaty of Versailles was because they felt that the cost of the rehears was way too much money for the Germans to pay. My last reason why is Germany came into the meeting of the signing thinking that the Treaty of Versailles was going to involve Wilson’s fourteen points, but the Treaty of Versailles had nothing to due with the Wilson’s fourteen points. These are my two reasons for they Germany objected to the Treaty of Versailles.
4. Was the treaty too harsh?
I think that the treat was too harsh. I think it was harsh because 1) the cost was absurd. The cost was 6600 million euros. This amount of money was going to be impossible to pay because they had to pay for all their losses after the war. With all the countries knowing that Germany was in debt they still tried to force them to pay that much money.
5. Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
I honestly don’t think that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace. I think this because the Germans never wanted to sign this treaty in the first place. They were basically forced to sign it. This made the Germans extremely angry. Of course they wanted revenge, this is what I think lead up to world war two.
6. How did the Treaty of St. Germain and the Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
The Treaty of St. Germain and the Treaty of Trianon left Austria and Hungary with economic problems because both of these treaties cause both Austria and Hungary to lose a lot of territory. Their trade system was ruined, so they didn’t have a whole lot of resources. Also their population reduced from 22 million to 6.5 million. Hungary’s population reduced from 21 million to 7.5 million. One of the lands that were taken over had Hungary’s richest corn and they lost all of it.
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The Treaty of Versailles
1. What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the treaty of Versailles?
Wilson’s motives were to create a league of nations in order to prevent war from starting again. He also didn’t want Germany to take the blame because he wanted a fair united system. Clemenceau’s aims were to the opposite of Wilson’s aims. He wanted Germany’s army to be taken apart and he wanted Germany to take the blame for ww1. Clemenceau believed that the Alsace-Lorraine territory should be given back to France and he didn’t want Europe to unite as one. Lloyd George motive was to create peace for Britain and he wanted peace for everyone.
2. Was the treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
The treaty was not fair at all because Germany had to end up taking all the blame for ww1 and Germany had to pay for country’s repairs. The German response was not justified at all they basically had to because everyone had agreed that Germany had to sign it so they went ahead and did it.
3. Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the treaty of Versailles. In your own words describe why the Germans objected.
Germany had objected to the treaty of Versailles because everything was unfair for them and they were not willing to pay other countries debts. Also the Wilson’s fourteen points had no effect which was said to be included in the treaty of Versailles.
4. Was the treaty too harsh?
In my opinion the treaty was very harsh. Germany had to pay a big amount of money to have other countries be repaired due to the damage cause by the war. The amount of money that Germany had to pay was ridiculous and unnecessary. Germany itself had to waste a big amount of money to due to the damages and knowing that they had to pay for their own damages and then they had to pay for everyone else’s damages was just more than harsh.
5. Do you feel that the treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
The treaty of Versailles did accomplish peace but in an unfair way because Germany didn’t want to but they had to since every country had agreed that Germany was responsible. Germany couldn’t say no because they were powerless and the treaty was the only way to help prevent another war from beginning.
6. How did the treaty of ST. Germain and the treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
Both of the treaties had resulted in Austria and Hungary losing a lot of territory and most of the territories they had lost were rich in resources and were well populated. Since they had lost lots of there resources and minerals it made it hard for them to make money and trade with other countries.
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Ms.Noce
11/3/2013
1. What were aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the treaty of versailles?
Woodrow Wilson, Clemenceau, and Lloyd George they all had different punishments In mind for Germany. France wanted Germany to pay for the damages done and they wanted them to return all the territory. Wilson wanted all the nations to feel like they had a part in this war. That's were the 14 points come in
and talk about what they could do. Last Lloyd george wanted a thing called " just peace " they wanted Germany to pay but they also wanted to be able to exchange goods with them without any trouble.
2. Was the treaty a fair one? Was the German responce justificed?
I think the treaty was a fair one because Germany knew they where a strong country and that went to their heads. They were invading countries and shooting civilian ships just to make a point. The Germans should have sign the treaty because that made them reduce their army and that was the right thing to do for saftey reasons.
3. Your reading dicusses why the Germany objected to the treaty of versailles. In your own words describe why the Germanys objected?
the Germans thought the treaty was harsh and they didn't agree with Wilson's points and they thought they were being promise term from Wilson's points and they weren't so they felt swindled. They also hated the fact that they had to pay and give back land.
4. Was the treaty to harsh
In my opinion the treaty wasn't harsh because Germany went into the war with the big guns and did many things that were unnecceary. They were killing many men,women, and children just to show Austria-Hungary that they had their backs. They had no premission to do that they were called into the war for support not to go and invade land and take territory. This is why I thought the treaty wasn't harsh.
5. Do you feel that the treaty of versailles accomplished peace?
No, the treaty of versailles didn't bring peace because giving Germany all the blame was a good thing but I'm guessing the Germans were very angry about that and that could be a reason for world war 2
6. How did the treaty of st. Germain and the treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
These treaty's gave Austria and Hungary problems because the treaty of st. Germain made them give up land. They gave up Bohemia and Moravia which had 10 million people living in that area so that area was very wealthy. Also they lost many other land like Dalmatia, Bosnia, and Herzegovina. Hungary on the other hand had to give back all the land captured during war because of the treaty of Trianon.
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Ms.Noce
1. What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles
- The aims and the the motives towards the victorious powers which drawn up to the Treaty of Versailles were basically stated in President Woodrow Wilson’s 14 Points. Also, Lloyd George and Georges Clemenceau had other plans such as getting back Alsace and Lorraine when it was lost to Germany in 1871 as well as having Germany pay for all the damages which they have caused.
2. Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
- The Treaty of Versailles, I believe wasn’t a fair treaty due to the fact that Germany had to take full responsibility and pay for all the damages. But then again, they made situations which followed up towards the war. Not only should Germany be responsible for everything but other countries which participated in WW1.
3.Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
- The Germans objected, or didn’t agree towards the Treaty of Versaille because what have been promised to them by the 14 Points, weren’t given. They also, didn’t agree on the maximum of men they should have in their troops as well as having to pay all the damages and having no saying but just simply signing the Treaty.
4.Was the treaty too harsh?
- I believe the treaty was too harsh regardless of which way is viewed. Not only did Germany suffer badly but other countries which were involved had nothing being done to them. Germany debt towards the Allies was very high and Germany wouldn’t be able to afford it until J.M. Keynes lowered it. Therefore, the consequences that Germany had to obey was very harsh especially having to pay such a huge amount and having things taken away from them as well.
5.Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
- I don’t think the Treaty of Versailles accomplished anything close to peace due to all that consequences that Germany had to pay for it as well as for other countries involved. To make matters even worse, Germany had no saying nor actions towards the Treaty which led up to the Second World War.
6.How did the Treaty of St. Germain and The Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
- The Treaty of St. Germain and The Treaty of Trianon left Austria and Hungary with economic
problem such as losing tons of land and the population being reduced by millions. Since, tariffs were introduced the problem got even more chaotic. The trade system was also affected and made it difficult as well.
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Ms. Noce
November 1, 2013
1. What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles?
• The Treaty of Versailles was discovered by American President Woodrow Wilson, Lloyd George from Britain, and Georges Clemenceau of France. Wilson’s aim was include his Fourteen-Points to avoid wars. Lloyd decided to let Germany paid for the respiration and damage they had done during war. Clemenceau wanted to restore Belgium and Serbia in a way to hurt Germans military, so Germany can’t attack France.
2. Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
• The Treaty wasn’t fair to Germany because all the blames goes to them and there are a lot of countries involved. If to make the Treaty fair, each country should paid off the damages they had done. The German response wasn’t justify because they are not allowed to join the discussion of the treaty and simply place the document in-front of them to sign. So, there is no choice for German to pick.
3. Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
• Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles because the respiration fee is too much £6600 million. Germany thought it will go by the Fourteen Points but unfortunately the 14 points hasn’t accepted yet. Germans lose their territory and their military forces had been limited. It found Germany guilty for the cause of the war and wanted them to accept the responsibility. Germany were allowed to criticize the treaty, however their criticism had ignore and beside one.
4. Was the treaty too harsh?
• The treaty was too harsh because the reparation fee is too high and it’s not affordable for Germany to paid off when they are in debt and other countries is trying to hurt their economic. J.M.Keynes, economic advisor of the British delegation, he tried to argued Germany to paid £2000 million for the Allies. But £6600 million was impossible for Germany to pay. Which Germany fail to paid and it cause resentment to the Allies. Because Allies is relied on Germany’s money to pay off their own debts to U.S. While France forced Germany to paid, the Allies accept the fault and finally cut down to £2000 million. However, not before the respiration end up adverse for both economically and politically.
5. Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
• I don’t think the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace because according to all the issues and blames go toward Germany. In a way to make the German mead and finally led to World War II.
6. How did the Treaty of St. Germain and The Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
• The Treaty of St. Germain leave Austria lost Bohemia and Moravia with 10 million wealthy people live in there. Also some other lands like Dalmatia, Bosnia, Herzegovina to Serbia, etc. In the other side, the Treaty of Trianon leave Hungary lose territories to other countries which also cause economic strength, military restrictions and population issues.
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November 3, 2013
The Treaty of Versailles Questions:
1. What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles?
The Treaty of Versailles was created by President Woodrow Wilson of the U.S., Georges Clemenceau of France and Prime David Lloyd George which was called the “Big 3.” Wilson wanted the treaty to have his fourteen points because it would help on not preventing another war outbreak. Clemenceau had different intentions on the treaty; he wanted to use the treaty to reclaim Alsace-Lorraine and to cripple Germany’s military and economy so Germany would not be a threat to France. Lloyd George did not have anything particular on the treaty, but wanted the treaty to make Germany pay the damages in the war while still keeping them strong enough to trade.
2. Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
I really think that the Treaty of Versailles was not fair for Germany because it gave so many restrictions on them. There were some objections that Germany made that were justified, for example, Germany objecting to the strict of limitation of armaments. Germany claimed that the 100,000 troops were simply not enough to keep law and order in a time of political unrest. Another objection that I thought was unfair for Germany was the war guilt clause. Blaming a big war only at Germany was unfair because Germany was mostly another country that was dragged into the war because of so many chains of alliances that was made during the war.
3. Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. IN YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
Germany objected so many things that were in the Treaty of Versailles for many reasons. One reason was that Germany thought that the terms of the treaty was it going to be based on Woodrow Wilson’s fourteen points. Some people did not see this as a valid objection because Wilson’s fourteen points were never been officially accepted. Another objection that Germany had on the treaty was the reparation cost. Germany thought 6600 Euros was too much for them to pay that Germany had to default on their annual installments.
4. Was the treaty too harsh?
The treaty was really too harsh for Germany because of the treaty stating that Germany had to pay reparations that the total cost will be 6600 million Euros. Many historians from today think that the 6600 million Euros was a high price for Germany to repay, even some people back then thought the same thing. A Britain economic adviser, J.M. Keynes had advocated that the allied forces take 2000 million Euros, which Keynes thought it was a good price for Germany to pay.
5. Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
I think that the “peace” accomplished by the Treaty of Versailles was something that was forced upon nations rather than it being agreed by the nations. Germany had no other choice but to sign the treaty even though Germany did not like what the treaty was forcing them to do. In my opinion, the Treaty of Versailles was a way for allied powers to weaken and suppress Germany because the allied powers believed that Germany started the war and should be punished for the war.
6. How did the Treaty of St. Germain and the Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problem?
ReplyDeleteBoth of the treaties left Austria and Hungary into a economic problem because the treaties caused both nations to lose a great amount of territory. The population of Austria was reduced from 22 million to 6.5 million with most of the industrial wealth going to Czechoslovakia and Poland. Austria got a sought of aid from the loans that was given to them by the League of Nations because of the severe economic crises they was facing. A lot of new states were coming with new tariffs that were quickly put into place. The tariffs flow of trade in the Danube area that made the industrial recovery in Austria a difficult process. Hungary’s population was reduced from 21 million to 7.5 million.
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bbc.co.uk (n.d.) “What did the Big Three want?” accessed November 3, 2013 from: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/standard/history/1890_1920/treaty_of_versailles/revision/4/
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The Treaty of Versailles
1. What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles? (You MAY need outside research for this question)
The aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles were to punish Germany and make them suffer. The treaty had 440 articles and fifteen parts that contained harsh demands to Germany. The Treaty of Versailles took away territory from Germany and also limited their army.
2. Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
In my opinion I don't find the Treaty of Versailles to be a fair treaty. The reason for that is because the treaty was based around Germany and the Germans weren't allowed to partake in the negotiation of the treaty. The treaty was handed to Germany and they were forced to sign and their complaints were ignored. Germany had large amounts of things taken away and they had no say or were able to defend themselves. I think the German response was justified because they wanted to try and stand up for all the unfairness being brought upon them even though they knew the allies wouldn't change their minds.
3. Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
The Germans objected to the Treaty of Versailles because they felt excluded and they found the terms of the treaty to be harsh and unfair. First of all this treaty is being made about Germany and Germany isn't allowed to be present during the negotiation. That made Germany feel excluded and was a reason of why they objected the treaty. The major reason they objected was because of the unfair treatment that came about from the treaty. Germany was presented with the treaty that stated everything the would lose and everything they had to follow whether they liked it or not. The treaty was to be signed by Germany and their feedback was ignored.
4. Was the treaty too harsh?
I felt that treaty was too harsh. Even if Germany was blamed for WWI I believe they shouldn't had to of been given a treaty where they have to give up their territory and majority of their army. The treaty denied the possessions of about 13.5% of Germany's 1914 territory and all of its possessions overseas. Also France was given Alsace-Lorraine back from Germany and Belgium became bigger and was given Eupen, Moresnet and Malmédy which was also from Germany. Germany was also limited to a maximum of 100,000 troops and were deprived of tanks, armored cars, military aircrafts or submarines and were only left with six battleships. The Germans greatly objected the treaty but were forced to sign it anyway.
5. Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
ReplyDeleteI don't feel that the Treaty do Versailles accomplished peace. The treaty was only able to end WWI and it didn't stop WWII from beginning. If the Treaty of Versailles was meant to be a peace offering then the allies wouldn't of had to force Germany into signing. In my opinion if you have to force something upon somebody then it isn't really considered accomplishing peace especially if it isn't agreed upon.
6. How did the Treaty of St. Germain and The Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
Austria and Hungary were left with economic problems due to their lost of territories because of the Treaty of St. Germain and the Treaty of Trianon. Because of the Treaty of St. Germain, Austria lost Bohemia and Moravia which were wealthy industrial provinces and had a population of 10 million people to the new state of Czechoslovakia. They also lost Dalmatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina to Serbia, Bukovina to Romania, Galicia to Poland and the South of Tyrol, Trentino, Istria and Trieste to Italy. Hungary lost Slovakia and Ruthenia to Czechoslovskia, Croatia and Slovenia to Yugoslavia and Transylvania and the Banat of Temesvar to Romania.
Works Cited
1. http://www.firstworldwar.com/source/versailles.htm
2. http://www.history.com/topics/treaty-of-versailles
3. Packet #10
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Ms.Noce
Treaties in World War 1
#1) What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles?
- The aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles were basically for a long lasting peace. They wanted a Treaty that would solve the major problems of the war.
#2) Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
-The Treaty of Versailles was not a fair Treaty because World War 1 was caused by many different reasons and Germany did not cause such big conflict alone. Every country contributed in some way or another, therefore, it was not fair for the Treaty to blame the war on Germany. The German response was justified because they deserved a voice on the Treaty.
#3)Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
- The Germans objected to the Treaty of Versailles because they were told that the terms of the Treaty were based on Wilson's 14 points and they weren't. Also, they were going to lose a lot of territory that they fought for.
#4) Was the treaty too harsh?
-The Treaty of Versailles was too harsh because as stated on #2, Germany did not cause the war on their own therefore, Germany should not lose the territory the fought hard for and pay $32 million for the reparations of the war.
#5) Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
- I don't think that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace because this eventually lead to World War 2.
#6)How did the Treaty of St. Germain and the Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problem?
- The Treaty of St.Germain and the Treaty of Trianon ledr Austria Hungary with economic problems because Austria lost a lot of territory therefore, lost a lot of its industrial wealth.
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Ms.Noce
November 3, 2013
1. What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles?
- The victorious powers that wanted to draw up the Treaty of Versailles were the United States, France, Britain, and Italy, which were known as “big four.” Wilson wanted to establish the League of Nations that would resolve all conflicts between the nations in the future. France wanted to secure that there would not be another German invasion and they also wanted to weaken Germany’s economic and demographic potential so that she would not be able to overpower France. Britain wanted to shut down Germany, make Germany pay for reparations and take over most of Germany’s African colonies. Lastly, Italy wanted to claim the lands: South Tyrol and the Trentino as they were promised so they joined the conference tables at Versailles.
2. Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
- The Treaty of Versailles was not a fair treaty because Germany took all the blame. As well as Germany, the other nations also had a big impact in the war. They were all to blame and the only one who paid the consequences was Germany, which is not fair. Germany’s response was not justified because they were forced to sign the treaty.
3. Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
- The Germans had many reasons to object the Treaty of Versailles. One objection was their claim of being promised terms based on Wilson’s fourteen points. Another objection was their loss of African colonies. A third objection was Germany’s claim that 100,000 troops weren’t enough to keep law and order at a time of political unrest. A last objection was the entire blame for the war and having to pay reparations, which were worth £6600 million.
4. Was the Treaty too harsh?
- The treaty was too harsh. The main reason that I feel that it was too harsh is because Germany had to pay all of the consequences themselves. Germany alone had to pay for all the reparations and got all of her colonies taken away.
5. Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
- I feel that the Treaty of Versailles may have accomplished peace to the nations that got what they wanted, which was for Germany to pay for everything they did. As to towards Germany, I feel like the treaty did not bring peace.
6. How did the Treaty of St. Germain and the Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
- The Treaty of St. Germain made Austria lose; Bohemia and Moravia to the new state of Czechoslovakia, Dalmatia, Bosnia, and Herzegovina to Serbia, Bukorina to Romania, Galicia to the reconstructed State of Poland, and the South Tyrol, Trentino, Istria and Trieste to Italy. The Treaty of Trianon made Hungary lose; Slovakia and Ruthenia to Czechoslovakia, Croatia and Slovenia to Yugoslavia, and Transylvania and the Banat of Temesvar to Romania.
Sources: Handout #10 , http://www.colby.edu/personal/r/rmscheck/GermanyD1.html
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ReplyDelete1. What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the treaty of Versailles?
The Allies claimed that the purpose of the Treaty of Versailles was to create peace and balance once again in Europe, but it is quite obvious that the main motive for which the controversial Treaty of Versailles was created was to punish, shame and humiliate Germany. There were some ulterior motives too, such as France’s wish of re-gaining Alsace-Lorraine and the Allies’ use of the preposterous reparations to pay war debt to the United States.
2. Was the treaty a fair one? Was Germany’s response justified?
My view on this is that the treaty was excessively harsh and punishing to Germany. The return of Alsace-Lorraine to France was, to my mind, more of a selfish aim from France rather than an “impartial” goal. I also object that the reparations Germany had to pay were, to put it in milder words, utterly absurd.
Germany’s response was quite well justified, even though their complaints were ignored in the making of the treaty. Mainly, the reparations were impossible to pay; Germany was devastated and starved which didn’t allow them to generate as much capital as needed to pay the reparations. Moreover, the massive disarmament made it almost impossible for Germany to maintain internal order after the war.
3. Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In your own words describe why the Germans rejected.
Germany complained against the Treaty of Versailles because; first, they were not allowed to discuss or even be taken into consideration when deciding the terms of the treaty; a “dictated peace” as the Germans put it. Second, Wilson’s 14 points were disregarded and the Germans felt as if they were being cheated; the Germans argued that the provisions were to be based on Wilson’s 14 points. Third, Germans in other nations were left in such nations and therefore ignored the “self-determination” matter that was addressed in the Treaty. Fourth, loss of African colonies was clearly not “impartial” as the Allies put it. Their territories were “looked after” by the Allies, which was an excuse to annex them. Fifth, the disarmament left Germany weak to maintain order in the political and civilian turmoil that was to follow the War; and to anger Germany more, no other country disarmed like Wilson’s points dictated. Sixth, Germany felt as if the total blame of the war on them was unjust. It is unlikely that the Allies reached the conclusion that the guilt was solely that of Germany in just six weeks. Finally, the Germans and even some Allied economists agreed that the reparations were ridiculously high and impossible to pay.
4. Was the treaty too harsh?
I believe that the treaty was too punishing, which was more of move of revenge from the Allies rather than impartial compensation. As previously mentioned, the treaty was very harsh to Germany. But we should also look at Austria-Hungary, Germany’s previous Ally. The treaty effectively fragmented the Habsburg Empire but was partially fair to the people who previously lived under the Habsburg Empire; ethnic groups were finally able to be self-governed and claim independence. Yet, Germans previously residing in Austria-Hungary were prohibited from uniting their countries with Germany; for this was seen as a risk of empowering Germany once again, probably even more than before.
5. Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
I feel the contrary; it did exactly what Wilson objected against: forcing peace upon the loser. It thoroughly humiliated Germany and made them miserable. Actually, the Treaty of Versailles was what lead to World War 2, the Germans were angry and resented the Allies and were bent on returning Germany to its former glory by any means necessary.
6. How did the Treaty of St. Germain and the Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
ReplyDeleteThese two treaties took large territories from Austria and Hungary. First, Austria lost great amount of its population (working force) and territories adequate for farming to other newly formed nations; the little unsuitable land that was left for them didn’t allow them to successfully heal their economy and were left in an economic crisis. This crisis was a perfectly justified reason to unite with Germany; but unfortunately the Treaty of Versailles prohibited this. Similarly, Hungary’s population was cut off into other countries and furthermore, nearby countries prevented flow of commerce with their import and export tariffs.
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The Treaty of Versailles
1. What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles?
The aims and motives of the victorious powers were mostly based on the 14. Points of Woodrow Wilson. He had the idea of the Treaty of Versailles. It was to make peace and after, contain and keep it. Lloyd George and Georges Clemenceau were also involved and they, or mostly Lloyd George wanted Germany to pay for all the destruction that they caused during world war one in a lot of countries.
2. Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
I personally don't think that the Treaty was a really fair one. Sure, Germany caused a lot of destruction and destroied a lot but was it really just Germany's fault that caused the destruction? I don't think so.
3. Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
The Germans had a lot of objection against the Treaty of Versailles. One of them was for example that they expected that it were based on the 14. Points of Wilson. It was not. They also would loose terretory and that not only in Europe, but also in Africa (Their conolies).
Germany felt treat unfair and not right. Thats why they had a lot of objections.
4. Was the treaty too harsh?
Yes, I think that the Treaty was too harsh. 6600 Mil. German Marks is clearly too much to pay just for one countrie wich you can't blaim for everything that happend during word war one. Also losing part of their countrie was not very fair.
5. Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
I don't think that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace at all. If you think about Germany's attitude towarts the rest of the european coutries, (at least at that time), it would not be hard to think that after Germany had recoverd, they would take revenge and that could led for World War 2.
6. How did the Treaty of St. Germain and the Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
The Treaty of St. Germain and the Treaty of Trianon left Austria and Hungary with economic problems because they lost a lot of terretory. For example: Slovakia, Ruthenia and Croatia. (They lost much more). The losing of terretory caused economic problems because of all the working poulation that were then not a part of those countries anymore.
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Ms. Noce
11/3/13
The Treaty of Versailles
1. What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles? (You MAY need outside research for this question)
The aims of the victorious powers in drawing the treaty of Versailles was, to end the war been between them and Germany.Their motives were to attain all the lands and territories that Germany had taken from them. And also to avenge all the ships and soldiers that they lost in the war.
2. Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
The treaty wasn't fair, because even though Germany was every aggressive towards the allied powers during the war she didn't deserve what she got in the treaty of Versailles.She was stripped of everything; her lands, her territories, and her military force. It was an ultimate defeat and humiliation for her. And to top it all off she had to pay all the damages that occurred in the war even though she wasn't the only one involved.
3. Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
The Germans objected to the treaty of Versailles, because the was made specially to destroy their Empire from ever gaining power again. It was revenge from the allied powers to them due t o the harsh treatment that was place upon them during the war. And also the Germans were tricked, into thinking that the treaty was based off of president Wilson’s Fourteen Point
4. Was the treaty too harsh?
Yes the treaty was harsh because, Germany lost everything she gain during the war and also some of her own territories. And to top it all off she had to pay 6,600 million dollars for the damages of the war ,that almost every country was involved in. The cost could had been distributed to every country that was in the war
5. Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
I don't feel that the treaty of Versailles didn’t accomplished peace because it was because of it that there was a second war years later. It was too humiliating for Germany, any country that went through that type of humiliation would strategize for revenge in the future at some point it is logical.
6. How did the Treaty of St. Germain and The Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
The treaty of St. Germain left Austria.with economic problems, because “Vienna was high and dry, surrounded by farming land Which could hardly support it”(packet 10; The peace treaties with Austria-Hungary) Due to this condition Austria couldn't support her economy,many people died and her population dropped from the previous 22 million down to 6.5 million. Austria couldn't support herself and she was left asking the for aid from the League of Nations. Hungary went through a lot of losses too. she stared with 21 million people and now there are 7.5 million left. Due to her lost of agricultural land to Romania.
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Erick Volquez
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11/3/2013
1. What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles?
The aims of the victorious powers which were the Allies (Great Britain, France, Netherlands etc...) Created the Treaty of Versailles to bring pain upon Germany, part of the Central Powers. This treaty had aims to stop Germany from making any type of move again and cause another war. President Wilson from the United States wanted to create another type of way to end this war but the Treaty of Versailles seemed more punishable after the allies winning the war because having a primary focus on stopping Germany from another attack was the idea so the aim was to implement this treaty and stop Germany.
2. Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
To the allies’ powers, the treaty was perfect. The main point was to keep Germany from doing anything globally and start a war or any type of massive destruction. It was fair to them that this would be sign so that Germany and its allies from the central powers would have to clean up for everything that was left. It can be said that the Germans were upset with this treaty because they had to give up land, pay off for damages and surrender these stuff in the faces of WW1 participants. This didn’t make them weak but just affected their relationships with Euro and Non-Euro centric countries.
3. Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. Describe why the Germans objected?
According to my reading, Germany objected to the Treaty of Versailles because it was too much of a hit to Germany that (in my words) pissed them off! Germany had to give away a lot of money and pay for damages caused in the war; it had to give land away and took down massive liberty upon Germany’s army. The treaty made them feel pressured to think that the cause of war was them which to them were unfair; it was a harsh punishment they “didn’t deserve”. Paying for what the treaty commanded them to do, the economy was terrible, the number of men in the army was brought extremely down and Germany lost value in trades.
4. was the treaty too harsh?
I believe that the treaty wasn’t too harsh because as we know Germans were actually the cause of war. There was no other way to make sure that they wouldn’t try to make a dirty move again so some type of strong law/justice needed to be made. President Wilson from the United States did bring ways of peace but the allies refused and implemented this strong treaty.
5. Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
The treaty did cause peace but it wasn’t a harmonic peace, it was a dominant, control type of peace. The allies brought pain to Germany and made them do things to pay for them causing the war which mad the Germans very angry, but it had to be done.
6. How did the Treaty of St. Germain and The Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
The treaty of St. Germain and the Treaty of Trianon left Austria and Hungary with economic problems due to the fact that the treaty of St. Germain saw that there was independence in Austria so it got separated from Hungary but this brought economic issues because then after this separation was done, Austria had to give away land to Italy which brought depression in the market and economic interest in trade and all sorts. The treaty of Trianon brought depression to the separated Hungary because just like Austria, it suffered mayor economic problems due to loss of population and army forces including trade market interests.
WORK CITED:
"The Great War: Evaluating the Treaty of Versailles | EDSITEment." The Great War: Evaluating the Treaty of Versailles | EDSITEment. N.p., n.d. Web. 03 Nov. 2013.
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"The Treaty of Versailles." The Treaty of Versailles. Enquiries@historylearningsite.co.uk, 2000. Web. 03 Nov. 2013.
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Ms.Noce
November, 3, 2013
The Treaty Versailles
1) What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles? (You MAY need outside research for this question)
-The aims and motives were to destroy Germany because they were to powerful. Also they wanted to make that Germany would not be a hazard to the military anymore or could enforce anything. So those were the motives and aims of the Victorious powers.
2) Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
-In all honesty I don’t think it was fair to Germany because they had to lose their territory in Europe that they had worked hard for. Also there African colonies had to be taken away from them. They were very limited to anything it felt like they had nothing else let to depend and that’s not fair to any country. German had no choice but respond in a justified way, but they complained about it very strongly.
3) Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
-The reasons why the Germans objected it was because it was not a fair treaty. They couldn’t even discuss the treaty all the were told to do is come and sign it; also they lost a lot of valuable things like their territory at Europe and their African colonies.
4) Was the treaty too harsh?
-Yes the treaty was too harsh.
5) Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
-The Treaty of Versailles didn’t accomplished peace at all. It opened the gates for more problems for the future.
6) How did the Treaty of St. Germain and The Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
-The Treaty of St. Germain dealing with Austria lost; Bohemia and Moravia (wealthy industrial provinces with a population of 10 million) to the new state of Czechoslovakia. And the Treaty of Trianon dealing with Hungary; this treaty was not signed until 1920 because of political uncertainties in Budapest; the communists led by Bela Kun, seized power but were later overthrown.
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Ms.Noce
1.What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles? (You MAY need outside research for this question)
The aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the treaty of versailles were that wilson wanted his 14 points to be included in the treaty so that there won’t be an outbreak. For Clemenceau is was different because he wanted to use Alsace-Lorraine and make germany struggle. Lastly for Lloyd he really didn’t have anything to really say or do he just wanted germany to pay for what they did
2.Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
No the treaty wasn’t a fair one because they didnt want to involve germany in the other powers and germany wanted peace but they was blamed for everything
3.Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
In my own opinion germany was objected to the treaty of versailles because they wasnt fair.They wasnt letting germany be involved in the other powers
4.Was the treaty too harsh?
Yes the treaty was harsh. They was harsh because they said germany had the blame for everything they treated them different they others.
5.Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
No i dont feel that the treaty of versailles accomplished peace because they blamed germany for everything that might be the reason why they say germany may have started ww2.
6.How did the Treaty of St. Germain and The Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
The treaty of St. Germain gave trianon and austria hungary problems because they left them with all their problems
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M s . N o c e
T r e a t y O f V e r s a i l l e s
1 . W h a t w e r e t h e a i m s a n d m o t i v e s o f t h e v i c t o r i o u s p o w e r s i n d r a w i n g u p t h e T r e a t y O f V e r s a i l l e s ?
E u r o p e w a s d i v i d e d i n t o t w o e q u i p p e d c a m p s . T h e G r e a t P o w e r s h a d a l o t o f p r e s s u r e a g a i n s t e a c h o t h e r t h e y a l l f e l t f o r c e d . A f t e r E u r o p e w a s d i v i d e d a l o t o f c o m m o t i o n t o o k p l a c e t h a t e v e n t u a l l y l e a d t o w a r . B y t h e n t h e g r e a t p o w e r s g o t t o g e t h e r a n d f o r c e d i n t o w a r .
2 . W a s t h e t r e a t y a f a i r o n e ? W a s t h e G e r m a n r e s p o n s e j u s t i f i e d ?
T h e t r e a t y w a s n ’t v e r y f a i r , y e s i t h a d i t s p r o b u t i t a l s o h a d i t s c o n s . T h e p r o s w e r e t h a t a l l p o w e r s w e r e t o h a v e p e a c e w i t h i n e a c h o t h e r . A n d t h e c o n s w e r e v e r y u n f a i r b e c a u s e t h e y a f f e c t e d G e r m a n y n e g a t i v e l y b y n o t i n v o l v i n g t h e m w i t h t h e o t h e r p o w e r s . T h e G e r m a n r e s p o n s e w a s t o g a i n p e a c e b u t t h e y w e r e n e g a t i v e l y b l a m e d f o r t h e d a m a g e c a u s e d u r i n g w o r l d w a r 1 .
3 . Y o u r r e a d i n g d i s c u s s e s w h y G e r m a n y o b j e c t s t o t h e T r e a t y o f V e r s a i l l e s . I n y o u r o w n w o r d s d e s c r i b e w h y t h e G e r m a n o b j e c t e d ?
-I n m y o p i n i o n t h e G e r m a n s o b j e c t e d t o t h e T r e a t y o f V e r s a i l l e s b e c a u s e t h e y w e r e n ’t f a i r a t a l l t o w a r d s t h e m . T h e y w e r e b e i n g v e r y s t r i c t b y n o t l e t t i n g t h e m n e g o t i a t e o r h a v e a n y i n p u t w i t h t h e r e s t o f t h e p o w e r s .
4 . W a s t h e t r e a t y t o o h a r s h ?
Y e s i t w a s , e s p e c i a l l y a n d s p e c i f i c a l l y t o w a r d s G e r m a n y s i n c e t h e y w e r e c o n s id e r e d a s t h e c a u s e o f i t a l l .
5 . D o y o u f e e l t h a t t h e T r e a t y o f V e r s a i l l e s a c c o m p l i s h e d p e a c e ?
N o t n e c e s s a r i l y b e c a u s e t h e y d i d n ’t c o m e t o g e t h e r t o f o r m p e a c e w i t h i n e a c h o t h e r a s p l a n n e d . T h e y m a i n l y a l l w e n t a g a i n s t G e r m a n y a n d n e g l e c t e d i t a n d t r e a t e d t h e v e r y b a d .
6 . H o w d i d t h e T r e a t y o f S t . G e r m a i n a n d t h e T r e a t y o f T r i a n o n l e a v e A u s t r i a a n d H u n g a r y w i t h e c o n o m i c p r o b l e m s ?
T h e T r e a t y o f S t . G e r m a i n a n d t h e T r e a t y o f T r i a n o n l e f t A u s t r ia a n d H u n g a r y w i t h n e g a t i v e o u t c o m e s . T h e y w e r e f o r c e d t o p a y f o r a l l t h e d a m a g e c a u s e d .
CITES:
- http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/treaty-st-germain.htm
- www.Firstworldwar.com
1. What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles? (You MAY need outside research for this question)
ReplyDeleteThe Treaty of Versailles was a form of compromise between the Prime Minister of Britain, President of the United States and the Premier of France. The three had different objectives and outcomes in mind when drafting the treaty, the main concern being the treatment of the ‘losers’ of the war. Wilson of the U.S. was interested in a peaceful resolution with Germany and greater odds of avoiding a second war in the same vein. Premier Georges Clemenceau wished for the opposite, a great and humiliating punishment of Germany as revenge for the devastating results and casualties of the war. To bring together some version of a compromise, there had to have been a middling perspective, which P. M. Lloyd George supplied. He wished to punish Germany for their actions but maintain an economic trading relationship with the country as he saw that Britain needed Germany’s alliance, at least on the trade front.
2. Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
The Treaty of Versailles, due to the conflicting opinions and pervasion of the opinions that Germany required a great deal of scolding ended up being harsh on Germany. It required the reduction of the German military and it’s territories as well as the official blame of the war to rest on Germany’s shoulders. Germany reacted violently to the announcement of the Treaty as they were offended by the terms of the treaty and could not by any means easily uphold them. Germany was in great debt from the war that was worsened by previous post-war documents and declarations of greater debt and reparations. While I find it hard to justify any war as great as World War II, Germany’s eventual reaction was understandable in the face of their great humiliation and suffering.
3. Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
The Germans could not withstand the debts layered upon them especially in their post-war state of devastation. Germany as a country was put in a state they could not maintain and survive by with the terms of the treaty. On top of their worsened economic and moral state, Germany, a highly militaristic and patriotic country was forced to surrender almost their entire armed forces and assets and suffer the entire blame for the war. These conditions were insufferable and greatly rankled the Germans as they felt they were neither wholly to blame for the war nor deserving of the reparations forced upon them.
4. Was the treaty too harsh?
ReplyDeleteWhile the premise was understandable from an emotionally irrational standpoint, the Treaty of Versailles was too harsh to be safe. It was almost a sure guarantee for war. The Treaty was a repetition of an ages old mistake. To punish a loser is to give them reason to strike you in the back when their anger and shame has been allowed to simmer.
5. Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
The Treaty of Versailles did not accomplish peace and in fact did the opposite, ensuring future war. The humiliation of Germany was a temporary cap on a bomb whilst being the flame to heat its fuse. Any peace that arose from the Treaty of Versailles was entirely temporary.
6. How did the Treaty of St. Germain and The Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
While Germany suffered under the pressure of the Treaty of Versailles, Austria and Hungary took an economic downturn as well. Austria was forced to give more livestock than she could afford to Italy and Balkan governments and Hungary suffering from her dissolved relationship with Austria.
Jack Roberts
Stephanie Santiago
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Treaty of Versailles
1. What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles?
Europe was divided into two equipped camps. The Great Powers had a lot of pressure against each other they all felt forced. After Europe Great Powers got together and forced into war.
2. Was the treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
The treaty wasn’t fair, yes it had its pros but it also had its cons. The pros were that all powers were to have peace within each other. And the cons were very unfair because they affected Germany negatively by not involving them with the other powers. The German response was to gain peace but they were blamed for the damage caused during World War 1.
3. Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In your own words describe why the German objected?
In my opinion the Germans objected to the Treaty of Versailles because they weren’t fair at all towards them. They were being very strict by not letting them negotiate or have any input with the rest of the powers.
4. Was the treaty too harsh?
Yes it was, especially and specifically towards Germany since they were considered the blame for the war even starting.
5. Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
Not necessarily because they didn’t come together to form peace within each other as planned. They mainly all went against Germany and neglected it and treated them very bad.
6. How did the Treaty of St. Germain and the Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
The Treaty of St. Germain and the Treaty of Trianon left Austria and Hungary with negative outcomes. They were forced to pay for all the damage caused.
Cites:
- http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/treaty-st-germain.htm
- www.firstworldwar.com
REVISION
ReplyDelete1. What were the aims and motives of the victorious powers in drawing up the Treaty of Versailles? (You MAY need outside research for this question)
The Treaty of Versailles was a form of compromise between the Prime Minister of Britain, President of the United States and the Premier of France. The three had different objectives and outcomes in mind when drafting the treaty, the main concern being the treatment of the ‘losers’ of the war. Wilson of the U.S. was interested in a peaceful resolution with Germany and greater odds of avoiding a second war in the same vein. Premier Georges Clemenceau wished for the opposite, a great and humiliating punishment of Germany as revenge for the devastating results and casualties of the war. To bring together some version of a compromise, there had to have been a middling perspective, which P. M. Lloyd George supplied. He wished to punish Germany for their actions but maintain an economic trading relationship with the country as he saw that Britain needed Germany’s alliance, at least on the trade front.
2. Was the Treaty a fair one? Was the German response justified?
The Treaty of Versailles, due to the conflicting opinions and pervasion of the opinions that Germany required a great deal of scolding ended up being harsh on Germany. It required the reduction of the German military and it’s territories as well as the official blame of the war to rest on Germany’s shoulders. Germany reacted violently to the announcement of the Treaty as they were offended by the terms of the treaty and could not by any means easily uphold them. Germany was in great debt from the war that was worsened by previous post-war documents and declarations of greater debt and reparations. While I find it hard to justify any war as great as World War II, Germany’s eventual reaction was understandable in the face of their great humiliation and suffering.
3. Your reading discusses why Germany objects to the Treaty of Versailles. In YOUR OWN WORDS describe why the Germans objected?
The Germans could not withstand the debts layered upon them especially in their post-war state of devastation. Germany as a country was put in a state they could not maintain and survive by with the terms of the treaty. On top of their worsened economic and moral state, Germany, a highly militaristic and patriotic country was forced to surrender almost their entire armed forces and assets and suffer the entire blame for the war. These conditions were insufferable and greatly rankled the Germans as they felt they were neither wholly to blame for the war nor deserving of the reparations forced upon them. Germany was also told to give over the territories and colonies they gained, including their great assets in Africa.
REVISION
ReplyDelete4. Was the treaty too harsh?
While the premise was understandable from an emotionally irrational standpoint, the Treaty of Versailles was too harsh to be safe. It was almost a sure guarantee for war. The Treaty was a repetition of an ages old mistake. To punish a loser is to give them reason to strike you in the back when their anger and shame has been allowed to simmer. While the treaty seems somewhat overly severe, many of the provisions had already occurred and the interests of previously dominated countries were kept in mind while the authors doled out independence.
5. Do you feel that the Treaty of Versailles accomplished peace?
The Treaty of Versailles did not accomplish peace and in fact did the opposite, ensuring future war. The humiliation of Germany was a temporary cap on a bomb whilst being the flame to heat its fuse. Any peace that arose from the Treaty of Versailles was entirely temporary. On a more immediate level, the Treaty broke Europe into states for and against revisions of the Treaty and lace settlements. It also gave those who were given the short end of the stick an opportunity and motivation to grow and strengthen.
6. How did the Treaty of St. Germain and The Treaty of Trianon leave Austria and Hungary with economic problems?
While Germany suffered under the pressure of the Treaty of Versailles, Austria and Hungary took an economic downturn as well. Austria was forced to give more livestock than she could afford to Italy and Balkan governments and Hungary suffering from her dissolved relationship with Austria. N terms of territory, Austria also was forced to surrender several states to Serbia, now Yugoslavia and the new country of Czechoslovakia as well as some territories to Romania, Poland and Italy. Hungary also had to give states to Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and Romania. Hungary was wrenched of her few assets that gave her the strength to contend and in doing so, strengthened her neighbors as Austria did with the surrender of land.
Sources:
"The Great War: Evaluating the Treaty of Versailles | EDSITEment." EDSITEment. National Endowment for the Humanities, n.d. Web. 03 Nov. 2013.
Rapten, Pema D. "Treaty of Versailles, 1919." Untitled Document. Mount Holyoke College, n.d. Web. 03 Nov. 2013.
"The Treaty Of St. Germain." History Learning Site. N.p., 2013. Web. 03 Nov. 2013.
“War and International Relations: The First World War and Its Aftermath." Packet Ten N.p.: n.p., n.d. 28-41. Print.
Jack Roberts
Warfare is a fascinating subject. Despite the dubious morality of using violence to achieve personal or political aims. It remains that conflict has been used to do just that throughout recorded history.
ReplyDeleteYour article is very well done, a good read.
Warfare is a fascinating subject. Despite the dubious morality of using violence to achieve personal or political aims. It remains that conflict has been used to do just that throughout recorded history.
ReplyDeleteYour article is very well done, a good read.