Tuesday, October 22, 2013

Peace Without Victory and Wilson's Fourteen Points

When the war started, no one had any specific ideas about what they hoped to achieve, exept that Germany and Austria wanted to preserve the Habsburg Empire. As the war progressed some of the governments involved began to list their war aims.

British Prime Minister Lloyd George was a supporter of democracy and felt that France should receive justice for losing Alsace and Lorraine to Germany. He also felt strongly that Germany should pay reparations for all the damages they had done.

Please read the handouts distributed to you in class and answer the following questions in detail.

Peace Without Victory Reading:
  1. What are Wilson's objections to a peace with victory?
  2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
  3. What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
  4. What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succeed?
  5. Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to "a just regard for the opinion of mankind." What important colonial document uses the same words? You MAY need external research for this question.

Peace or War Reading:
  1. How did the Allies' version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson's "peace without victory?"
  2. Why did the Allies object to Wilson's Fourteen Points?
  3. What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
  4. Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson "his" League of Nations?
  5. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War I?
I've also included Wilson's Fourteen Points for you to have and keep in your binders.  REMEMBER!!! This is the week that you are to comment on two of your colleague's blog posting this week!








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  1. Samantha Foster
    IB History
    Ms. Noce
    10-26-13
    Peace without Victory & Wilson’s fourteen points

    Peace without Victory Reading:
    1.What are Wilson's objections to a peace with victory?
    Wilson objected to peace with victory because it would mean “peace forced upon the loser, a victor’s terms imposed upon the vanquished”. In other words, the loser would have to oblige by the rules of the winner. The loser would experience a great deal of humiliation and undergo sacrifices so intolerable that it would cause the loosing nation to be filled with so much resentment it could possibly lead to another outbreak of war.

    2.According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe and retain stability?
    Wilson believed that the only way for Europe to retain stability is if it became a community of powers instead of a balance of powers.

    3.What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    Wilson thinks that the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind is what the war represents. Is it a war fighting for a just and secure peace or is it only a fight for a new balance of power? If the war is about finding a new balance, who can ensure that this new balance of power will be equal?

    4.What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succeed?
    Wilson says that nations must be willing to establish equality amongst themselves in order for “peace without victory” to succeed because he believes that peace can only last between equals.

    5.Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to "a just regard for the opinion of mankind." What important colonial document uses the same words?
    Wilson had borrowed the phrase, "a just regard for the opinion of mankind", from the Declaration of Independence.

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    1. do you believes the same as what Wilson's believe of "peace without victory"?

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    2. I really like your answer for number 1 it is well thought out and it has good details.

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  2. Peace or War Reading:
    1.How did the Allies' version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson's "peace without victory?"
    The allies’ version of peace and Wilson’s “peace without victory” differed from each other because they both had different intentions. Wilson had created peace without victory because he wanted all nations to be treated equally which meant that the victors couldn’t punish the losers severely. The allies on the other hand wanted to blame Germany and wanted the Germans to pay severely for all the damage they had created.

    2.Why did the Allies object to Wilson's Fourteen Points?
    The Allies objected to Wilson’s fourteen points because the damage Germany had inflicted on them simply couldn’t be overlooked. Each leader of the allied powers had also wanted Germany to suffer because they felt that it was what their country would want. If they were to go on and agree with Wilson, the people of their country would be highly upset with them.

    3.What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    The purpose of the League of Nations was to prevent another war outbreak. A council was created so that there would be a representative for all of the major nations. In order to maintain peace, arguments would go to the council where they would be addressed and then settled.

    4.Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson "his" League of Nations?
    During the conference meeting between the leaders of the Allied powers, Lloyd George of Britain had question why Wilson should have his League of Nations. Clemenceau had agreed to give Wilson his League of Nations because he thought that the league would prove useful in keeping Germany at a weakened state.

    5.How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War I?
    Germany and Austria-Hungary were negatively affected by the treaties that put an end to World War 1. Germany was forced to take blame for starting the war. The colonies in which Germany had established were taken away from them including the provinces of Alsace and Lorraine which were returned to France. The treaties had also required for Germany to disband its army and pay war costs along with reparations which ended up being a total of $32 billion. The economy of Germany was also put under the control of the Allied powers. As for Austria-Hungary, the empire had been disbanded in many ways. A new republic called Czechoslovakia had been created. Serbia had gained more land and became the kingdom of Yugoslavia. Rumania was able to expand its territory at the price of Bulgaria and Hungary.

    Works cited:
    heritage.org(n.d) The Declaration of Independence accessed October 26, 2013 from http://www.heritage.org/initiatives/first-principles/primary-sources/the-declaration-of-independence

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    1. Well written blog, for question number 3 in Peace Without Victory, do you think another question such as " Who can will guarantee? and Who can guarantee?" can also be a question that affects the future of mankind?

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    2. Great job with the blog! Your answers were clear and to the point. Do you agree with Wilson's objections to peace with victory?

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  3. William Reis
    Ms.Noce
    IB History
    10/24/13

    Peace without Victory Reading:

    1. What are Wilson's objections to a peace with victory?
    Woodrow Wilson’s famous speech was towards the World War one, the objective on the peace with victory speech basically meant that in the war peace must be made between nations and that at least one nation will have to become losing nation. So America joined its allies in the war to make victory in 1917

    2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    According to Wilson, the only way Europe can attain stability is if nations that are involved in the war would become friends. He claimed that nations must become together and form peace no matter how big or small and how weak or strong the nation is, also the fighting for land must come to an end, if the land belongs to that nation, it will stay with that nation. Also Wilson founded the league of nation which would help attain stability in Europe.

    3. What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    According to Wilson the future of mankind expects nothing else but the power of freedom that everyone’s wishes for, the freedom that everyone wants in their life and not focus on counterbalancing other powers which causes war.

    4. What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succeed?
    Wilson says that nations must come together at once to make peace and that no matter what; one nation will have the outcome as a loser, in this case Germany came our as the losing nation of the war.

    5. Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to "a just regard for the opinion of mankind." What important colonial document uses the same words?
    The quote “a just regard for the opinion of mankind” was not originated from Woodrow Wilson, this famous quote was originated from the Declaration of Independence document which was signed on July 4, 1776. This document was created by Thomas Jefferson later on edited by the continental congress.

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  4. Peace or War Reading:

    1. How did the Allies' version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson's peace without victory?
    When Wilson wrote the “Peace without victory” speech, afterwards he wrote the 14 points which were 14 statements that he claimed that nations in the continent of Europe should do in order to create the peace many people wished for between. On the other side allies created the Treaty of Versailles which mainly focused on blaming Germany for causing World War one. So my point is: Wilson’s 14 points didn’t blame any nation In Europe but make nations come together as friends to create peace and the Treaty of Versailles blamed Germany for causing the war and wanting to make a kind of revenge on Germany making that nations pay for its damage caused.

    2. Why did the Allies object to Wilson's Fourteen Points?
    Allies in Europe disagree in Wilson’s 14 points because in the land of America no damage was caused unlike in Europe where major damaged and millions of innocents were dead. Allies in Europe wanted Germany to pay for the major damage they caused because it just wasn’t fair for Allies to accept the 14 points and Germany to get away.

    3. What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    The purpose of the League of Nations was a big impact for the nations for a temporary amount of time. The League of Nations was to make sure nations all around the world would never again make war. For example instead of nations going to war over a cause, they would meet together to negotiate the cause in a peaceful way.

    4. Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson "his" League of Nations?
    Georges Clemenceau decided to give Wilson his League of Nations during a meeting between Vittorio Orland (from Italy), David Lloyd George (from Britain) and Clemenceau (from France) when Clemenceau thought of giving the League of Nations to Wilson because then it will keep Germany’s powerless, so Clemenceau gave his League of Nation to Wilson to mainly keep Germany weak.

    5. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War I?
    Germany had a big impact with treaties at the end of World War one by the Treaty of Versailles which blamed Germany for causing the war and making Germany pay for all the damage they caused which ended up to be over one billions of dollars which caused Germany to build a whole new economy system in order to pay its debt. Austria-Hungary as an empire was completely destroyed because of the war, during the war the empire was broke apart, they also had to start a new economy system because the economy system during World War one was wrecked.

    WORK CITED
    "Declaration of Independence (July 4, 1776) Summary & Full Text." Totally History Declaration of Independence Comments. N.p., n.d. Web. 26 Oct. 2013. .
    "The League of Nations." About.com Geography. N.p., n.d. Web. 26 Oct. 2013. http://geography.about.com/od/politicalgeography/a/The-League-Of-Nations.htm
    Hand Out #9

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    1. I like on question 4 on peace or war you show the country the person was there to represent.

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    2. For question five for the last part, it would of been good if put how much the damages were that Germany had to pay back. Reason why I say this cause Germany economy after was controled by Allies.

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  5. Junior FanFan
    Ms.Noce
    IB History
    October 26, 2013

    What are Wilson's objections to a peace with victory?
    Wilson's objections to peace with victory is that he wants all covenants to be peaceful, he wants the seas to be free of navigation which means there should be nothing called a war zone where ships are not able to pass. there should be no blockage or barrier of any sort to stop a country. Wilson also wanted every country to follow in the government of a democracy which means the power is in the people hand.
    2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    Wilson said the only way Europe can remain stable is if “there must be. not a balance of power. but a community of power; not organized rivalries, but an organized common peace.” What I think Wilson was trying to say is that everything should be organized so that nothing goes out of control. also he talks about the should let the community have a say in what goes on in the country. that every country should have peace with each other and stop all the fighting.
    3. What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    Wilson think World war 1 would affect the peace between countries in the future. also Wilson also asks if there will be equality of rights for everyone. also he wants countries to have freedom of life to get away from dictators like mexico had in 1913.
    4. What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succeed?
    Wilson says for the peace without victory to succeed the countries would have to bring back the Monroe doctrine which states the countries wouldn’t interfere or try to colonize land on the south and north america. Also Wilson said that countries should stay away from trying to make alliances with other countries. then he says that the government should have freedom of the sea.
    5. Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to "a just regard for the opinion of mankind." What important colonial document uses the same words?
    President Woodrow Wilson got that line from the second paragraph of the declaration of independence when it talks about how all men are created and that we hold truth to be self evidence.

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    1. Why do you think Wilson used the same words from the Declaration of Independence?

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    2. you didn't answer question 3 correctly reread the question carefully.

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  6. 6. How did the Allies' version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson's "peace without victory?"
    Woodrow Wilson created peace without victory wanted all the countries to be equal and all have equal rights. the allies wanted to put all the blame on germany for starting the war and they also wanted them to pay for all the damage and give back their colonizes.
    7.Why did the Allies object to Wilson's Fourteen Points?
    The allies objected to Wilson’s fourteen points because they had no forgiveness in their hearts. they couldn’t forgive germany for what they had done during the war and they wanted revenge on them. also country leader or ambassadors wanted germany to face some type of consequence because they thought that would be the right thing to do.
    8. What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    The purpose of the League of Nations was to kind off hold back other countries from starting wars or a rebellion of some type. there would be a person from each major nations to go and talk about problems or arguments they have with other countries and try to settle them.
    9. Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson "his" League of Nations?
    Clemenceau agreed to give Wilson “his” League of Nations because he thought wilson was doing the right thing when he brought it up in the meeting with Allied powers. Also they thought it was a good thing to do because that could keep germany under watch and control of them in what they do. this was to protect other countries and to prevent another war.
    10. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War I?
    Germany and Austria-Hungary affected negatively because germany had to take all the blame for what happened during the war. they also had to give back colonize that they had acquired from battle like Alsace and Lorraine which was to france. Germany also had to disband their army because of the treaty they had signed and had to pay $32 billion dollars of damage to the places they had fought a battle with. For Austria-Hungary a new republic called Czechoslovakia had been created. Also Rumania expanded their land because Austria- hungary paid for them.

    Work cited:
    packet 9
    http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html

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    1. I really like the way you answered your questions making it very simple and straight forward, making it easy to understand!

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    2. Your essay answers all the questions pretty well, but I feel you could improve your answer on question 7 in "because they had no forgiveness in their hearts", the phrase seems more like an emotional opinion rather than a factual answer.
      That aside, easy to understand essay!

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  7. Miladys Florentino
    IB History 11
    Ms.Noce

    Peace Without Victory Reading:
    Question 1: What are Wilson's objections to a peace with victory?
    - Wilson’s objections to a peace with victory was to be able to stop the bloodshed during World War 1 before it got even worse throughout the years especially towards other countries.
    Question 2: According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    - The only way Europe can attain stability is by guaranteeing equilibrium so that there would be not only balance of power but also a community of of those who get along with peace.
    Question 3: What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    - Wilson thinks the most urgent questions that affects the future of mankind are: Is the present war a struggle for a just and secure peace, or only for a new balance of power? If it be only a struggle for a new balance of power, who can guarantee, the stable equilibrium of the new arrangement? These questions is what the world depends on for answers.
    Question 4: What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succeed?
    - Wilson says nations must first end the present war in order for “peace without victory” to succeed. But, the only ones who can end it is mankind and whose opinions matters. So therefore, the treaties which are made should be able to create peace and be able to last as well.
    Question 5: Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to "a just regard for the opinion of mankind."What important colonial document uses the same words?
    - Another important document which used the same words, “a just regard for the opinion of mankind” was the Declaration of Independence.
    Peace or War Reading:
    Question 1: How did the Allies' version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson's "peace without victory?"
    - The Allies’ version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson’s peace without victory, because both the Allies’ and Wilson wanted different things as an outcome. Wilson wanted to have peace within Germany but on the other hand, the Allies won’t rest until Germany paid for what they caused in Paris in 1870 and 1914.
    Question 2: Why did the Allies object to Wilson's Fourteen Points?
    - The Allies objected to Wilson’s Fourteen Points due to the fact that the Allied Leaders had their own plans for peace and didn’t want to agree with Wilson’s Fourteen Point because Germany invaded Paris twice within 1870 and 1914 which caused heavily damages. So therefore they weren’t trying to make peace with Germany until damaged was done.
    Question 3:What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    - The purpose of the League of Nations was to be able to encourage world peace and combine what was the Treaty of Versailles. It also, gave Wilson the belief that if countries wanted to declare war, the world should all know as well.
    Question 4: Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson "his" League of Nations?
    - Clemenceau agreed to give Wilson his League of Nations because they believed that with this he would become weak, but instead Wilson took this League of Nations into another level and making it his main priority.
    Question 5: How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War I?
    - Germany and Austria- Hungary were affected by the treaties ending WW1 due to Treaty of Versailles. Germany admitted that they caused the war by themselves. They also had it’s colonies taken away as well as paying the Allies war costs, such as damages. As for Austria-Hungary, their Empire was divided. Many countries had their own independence such as being granted land, and territories being doubled which meant Austria and Bulgaria was entitled to all the expenses.

    Sources:
    Handout #9

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    1. In question #3, why do you think Wilson use them as the most urgent question? and what do you mean "the world depends on for answer"?

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    2. I feel as if you did a nice job! But, now I'm kind of thrown off and wondering about the answers due to the fact that we have different answers for most of the questions on the first part. But this helped me realize/understand other answers to the questions other than my responses!

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  8. Mu Ying Yu
    IB World History
    Ms. Noce
    October 26, 2013
    Peace Without Victory Reading:

    1. What are Wilson's objections to a peace with victory?
    Wilson’s objections to peace with victory is stop all war, open the sea for all countries, which every countries had the right to go pass and should be no more stopping ships in the middle of the sea. No more hurting each other and stop all the blood fight. Want peace, no more violence/war should going on.
    2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    According to Wilson, the only way Europe can attain stability is guarantee the stable equilibrium. Because they the community power and worked for the same common peace but not only the balance of power and the rivalries.
    3. What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    Wilson thinks the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind is who can guarantee the equilibrium and who knows is there any new arrangement happen in the future, no one knows until the moment that had happened.
    4. What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succeed?
    Wilson said nations must be willing to do in order for “peace without victory” to succeed means a country must agree with other countries that there should be peace held in countries without any war. For peace to last, countries must equally work on common goal and towards common benefits. That is just like peace in racial and national allegiance.
    5. Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to "a just regard for the opinion of mankind." What important colonial document uses the same words?
    The important quote “a just regard for the opinion of mankind” used in the Declaration of Independence.





    Peace or War Reading:
    1. How did the Allies' version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson's "peace without victory?"
    The Allies’ version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson’s “peace without victory” is totally two different outcome from them. Wilson wanted no war and only peace with Germany, but the Allies think this is all because of Germany started the war and Germany had to pay fully for their lost.
    2. Why did the Allies object to Wilson's Fourteen Points?
    The Allies object to Wilson’s Fourteen Points because the Allies wanted the Germany to be punished harshly due to what they had done in World War 1 and how Germany had invaded countries.
    3. What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    The purpose of the League of Nations was getting connected with the Treaty of Versailles and the most important one is that everyone should know what was going on in the world. Peace was promoted in the world.
    4. Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson "his" League of Nations?
    Clemenceau agree to give Wilson “his” League of Nations because Clemenceau hated Germany and Wilson’s League of Nations will help Britain, France and Italy because they all stand on one side and it will helped them to give pressure toward Germany, than Germany will became powerless.
    5. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending
    World War I?
    Germany and Austria-Hungary were affected by the treaties ending World War I by Germany had to paid for the damage during the war and the land they won had all gone back to where they came from. Which the Germany blamed the Treaty of Versailles badly because even though they are the winner but at the end they got nothing. On the other side in Austria-Hungary new republic was created and called Czechoslovakia. Poland back to independent country, additional land was given to Serbia became the kingdom of Yugoslavia, and last the Romania territory got expanded because Hungary and Bulgaria paid them the damage.

    Source:
    • Packet #9
    • http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/freedom/doi/text.html

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    1. nice blog i liked how you answered the questions it was easy to understand but i have a question ,do you believe Wilson belief of "peace without victory "?

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    2. I think it was well written. But, I am questioning if my answers are right because we have different answers. I guess it depends on how we interpreted the reading. Anyways, good job Kelly!

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  9. Dianna Colon
    IB History 11
    Ms.Noce
    October 27, 2013

    Peace Without Victory Reading:
    1. What are Wilson’s objections to a peace with victory?
    - Wilson’s objection to a peace with victory is that, “Victory would mean peace forced upon the loser, a victor’s terms imposed upon the vanquished.” The article also states that for the loser it would be humiliation coming from the winner, which will lead to hate from the loser.
    2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    - The only way Europe can attain stability is by there being a community of power instead of a balance power, and an organized common peace instead of organized rivalries.
    3. What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    - The most urgent question that affects the future of mankind according to Wilson is the question of armaments.
    4. What does Wilson say nations must be willing to in order for “peace without victory” to succeed?
    - In order for “peace without victory” to succeed Wilson proposes that nations should adopt the doctrine of President Monroe, and that all nations avoid entangling alliances that would take them into competitions of power.
    5. Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to “a just regard for the opinion of mankind.” What important colonial document uses the same words?
    - The important colonial document that uses those same words is the Declaration of Independence.

    Peace or War Reading:
    1. How did the Allies’ version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson’s “peace without victory?”
    - The Allies’ insisted on taking large portions of the losers’ territories. This differed from Wilson’s “peace without victory” because Wilson felt that the winners should no punish the losers.
    2. Why did the Allies object to Wilson’s Fourteen Points?
    - The Allies object to Wilson’s fourteen points because his points basically insisted for the loser to not be treated badly. The Allies’ want Germany to pay, they want to destroy Germany and Wilson’s fourteen points will not let that happen, which is why the object.
    3. What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    - The purpose of the League of Nations was to prevent future wars
    4. Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson “his” League of Nations?
    - Clemenceau agreed to give Wilson “his” League of Nations because Wilson believes that a league of nations will put and end to all wars, so Clemenceau believes that if they give him that then he will give up everything else.
    5. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War I?
    - Germany was affected by the treaties at the end of the war by being forced to admit that it alone was guilty for starting the war, all of her colonies were taken away, Alsace and Lorraine were given back to France, she was forced to pay Allied war costs as well as reparations ($32 Billion), and the German economy was put under Allied control. Austria-Hungary was affected by the treaties at the end of the war by the creation of a new public, which was Czechoslovakia, Poland became an independent country, Serbia became the kingdom of Yugoslavia and also was given additional land, and last but not least, Rumania’s territory was doubled at the expense of Bulgaria and Hungary.

    Source:
    - Handout #9
    - http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/freedom/doi/text.html

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    1. great blog Dianna. but do you really think there was a difference from the allies version about the peace without victory ?

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    2. Ay Dianna, I like your blog✔. One question I have is about the League Nation. Do you think its fare on the conditions on how if you dont agree, you get cut from trade ? Say if the U.S wasn't a major winning nation, how would you think we would go about it ?

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  10. Victor Harris
    I.B History 11
    Ms.Noce
    10/27/13

    Peace with Victory
    1.What are Wilson's objection to a peace with victory?
    -The objection was to just end war. Wilson wanted peace to be secured, for Wilson was hard to say because it's hard to be done. Wilson was trying to say everybody should be equel, no peace can't last if everybody isn't equel.
    2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stabilty?
    -According to Wilson the only way Europe would be able to attain stability is by "equlibrium". This would be good for equel power and will spread peace.
    3.What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    -The question was who can guarante a new balance of power. And " Is the present war a struggle for a just and secure peace, or only for a new balance of power".
    4.What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succed.
    -Wilson was trying to say nation have a peaceful set of mind. Let the principle of equality should come into play. "Terrioty of racial and national play",should also come with peace without victory.
    5.Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to " a just regard for the opinion of mankind". What important colonial document uses the same word?
    -When Wilson says " a just regard for the opinion of mankind", Wilson got this from the Declartion of Indepence.
    6.How did the Allies version of a peace treaty differ from Wilsons"peace without victory"?
    -Wilsons peace without victory was the winners shouldn't punish the loser to a harsh demanding punishment. The way the allies seen, they wanted to take large portions of the losers territorries.
    7.Why did the Allies object to Wilson's fourteen points?
    The allies and the Republicans didn't agree with Wilson. What they wanted was to make Germany pay harshly. The United States wanted nothing else to do with the European politics.
    8.What was the purpose of the League Nation?
    -The purpose of the League Nation was about the Treaty of Versailles. This would go with the major winners in the nation which were, U.S, Britain, France, Italy, and Japan. Anybody that didn't agree would be cut from trade.
    9.Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson "his" League of Nations ?
    -Clemenceau agreed because Wilson wanted this very bad, and also Clemenceau like the fact that this could make Germany very weak.
    10. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War 1 ?
    -Germany was affected because they were force to admit they started the war. Also Germany weopons were taken away and paid for damages. The total cost of this was $32 billion,and there economy were controlled by the allies. For Austria a new republic became independent, and Serbia was given additonal land. Lastly the Rumanies territory doubled because of Austria and Bulgaria.

    Work Cited:
    Packet 9

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    1. Hola Victor!!! I like your blog, but i got a question on #8 How did the Treaty of Versailles influenced on creating the League of Nations?

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    2. In your Opinion would you want equal peace (Wilson's idea) or the rules from Treaty of Versailles which wasn't equal peace

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  11. Madelis Mejia
    Oct 27, 2013
    IB History
    Ms.Noce

    Peace Without Victory Reading:
    1. What are Wilson's objections to a peace with victory?
    The speech made by Wilson was a message to the nations in Europe saying that there must be a loser in the end of the war no matter what and that the losing nation would face humiliation.

    2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    The only way Europe it self would create stability was if nations became friends together and settled down for peace to end the war.

    3. What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    Wilson thinks that the civilian of the nations in Europe expects for freedom that they always wished for and counter balancing other nations power.

    4. What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succeed?
    Wilson is trying to say that at the end of this Great war there will be a losing nation regardless on the event.

    5. Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to "a just regard for the opinion of mankind." What important colonial document uses the same words? You MAY need external research for this question.
    The quote "a just regard for the opinion of man kind" came from the Declaration of Independence letter which was written back in 1776 by Thomas Jefferson.

    Peace or War Reading:
    1. How did the Allies' version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson's "peace without victory?"
    Wilson's idea for peace was that he wanted equality for all nations, meaning no nation would take the cause for starting the war or no nation would come out as the losing nation unlike the Allies where they wanted to blame a nation for causing the war, in this case, Germany.

    2. Why did the Allies object to Wilson's Fourteen Points?
    The 14 Points made by Wilson were 14 statements that he suggested the allies to do for an equal peace for all nations at the end of the war

    3. What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    The purpose of the League of Nations was to completely prevent any more disasters (Wars) from happening between nations and instead of causing war nations would come together to negotiate.

    4. Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson "his" League of Nations?
    Glemenceau (From France) thought of giving his League of Nations to Wilson because it would keep Germany from having lots of power because Wilson wished for Equal peace for all nations including Germany.

    5. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War I?
    At the end of World War 1 (1918) Germany was the main country affected by the treaties because of the Treaty of Versailles which placed Germany in an ugly spot due to nations blaming Germany for causing the war and making that nation pay for all the damage they caused on other countries which all those damage cost $32 Billion, making Germany start a whole new economy. Germany wasn't the only country that was affected at the end of the war, Austria-Hungary's empire was completed destroyed/divided during the war causing Austria-Hungary to build a whole new empire.

    Work Cited
    Hand Out 9

    "Declaration of Independence: Summary, Text & Signers." LiveScience.com. N.p., n.d. Web. 27 Oct. 2013. .

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  14. Dimas A. Amezquita
    IB History
    Mrs. Noce
    October 27, 2013
    Peace without Victory & Wilson’s Fourteen Points:

    Peace without Victory Reading:
    1. What are Wilson’s objections to a peace with victory?
    The reason for Wilson’s objection to peace with victory because in one of the quotes that Wilson made was that a loser would have to obey the rules of the winner. So the loser would face a great deal of humiliation and will do sacrifices, it will be unbearable that it would cause the other nation that lost to be filled with bitterness that it could lead to another outbreak of the war. “Peace forced upon the loser, a victor’s terms imposed upon the vanquished”.

    2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can retain stability?
    The only way that Wilson believed for Europe to retain stability is if it could become a community of powers instead of being balanced of powers.

    3. What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    Wilson thinks that the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind is the way the war represented. It is a war fighting and secure peace or is it a fight for a new balanced power? If the war is about finding a new balance, who can ensure that the new balance of power will be the same?

    4. What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for “peace without victory” to succeed?
    Wilson was saying that nations must be willing to go equality for themselves in order for “peace without victory” to be successful because Wilson really believes that peace could only last between equals.

    5. Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to “a just regard for the opinion of mankind.” What important colonial document uses the same words?
    Wilson got the phrase, “a just regard for the opinion of mankind,” from a colonial document called the Declaration of Independence.

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  15. Peace or War Reading:
    1. How did the Allies’ version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson’s “peace without victory?”
    Wilson’s “peace without victory” and the allies’ version of peace postponed from each other because they both had different intentions. The reason for Wilson creating peace without victory was because he really wanted all the nations to be treated equally. This meant that the victorious nations could not punish the losers in any way. Then the allies wanted to blame the war on Germany and wanted Germany to pay all the damages that had been made in the war.

    2. Why did the Allies object to Wilson’s Fourteen Points?
    The reason for the allies objecting to Wilson’s fourteen points was because the damage that Germany had inflicted on the allies could not be ignored. Each leader of the allied powers wanted Germany to suffer because they felt that it was the only thing that their country really wanted. If the leaders of the allied powers agreed with Wilson, a lot of people of the allied countries would be upset with them.

    3. What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    The purpose of the League of Nations was to prevent a war outbreak. A council was established so that there would be a representative for all major nations. The way to maintain peace was there were a lot of arguments that would go to the council and would be addressed and settled.

    4. Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson “his” League of Nations?
    During the conference meeting of the Allied powers, Lloyd George from Great Britain had a question on why Wilson should get his League of Nations. After, Clemenceau had agreed to give Wilson its League of Nations because Clemenceau thinks that the League of Nations would prove in keeping Germany at a weakened state.

    5. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War 1?
    Germany was forced to take the blame for starting World War 1. All of the colonies that Germany had established were taken away, including the provinces of Alsace and Lorraine that were returned to France. The treaties made Germany to dissolve its army and pay war costs and reparations, which ended Germany paying a total of $32 billion. Austria-Hungary had their empire being disbanded in many ways, which created a new republic called Czechoslovakia. Serbia gained a lot of land and became the kingdom of Yugoslavia.

    Work Cited:
    heritage.org (n.d.) “The Declaration of Independence.” accessed October 27, 2013 from: http://www.heritage.org/initiatives/first-principles/primary-sources/the-declaration-of-independence

    geography.about.com (n.d.) “The League of Nations.” accessed October 27, 2013 from: http://geography.about.com/od/politicalgeography/a/The-League-Of-Nations.htm

    Handout #9

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    1. I like your "answering style." By that I mean that, you answered the questions in a very clear way. Only one suggestion and I hate doing this but blame Ms.Noce; in question #4 on the Peace or War section, I believe you could've added if Wilson wanted the League of Nations or not and why or why not, because if a person never read packet #9, the answer wouldn't be very clear... but overall very good job! :)

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  18. Jerilys Santiago
    IB World History
    October 27, 2013

    Peace without victory reading

    #1: What are Wilson's objectives to a peace with victory?
    - Wilson's objectives to a peace with victory are that victory would mean peace forced upon the loser, it would be accepted in humiliation and it would leave a bad memory upon which terms of peace would rest.
    #2: According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    -The only way that Europe can attain stability according to Wilson is that, Europe needs to be tranquil, a community of power and an organized common peace.
    #3:What does Wilson think its the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    -The most urgent question that affects the future of mankind according to Wilson is, "Is the present war a struggle for a new balance of power (paragraph 7)?"
    #4:What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succeed?
    -Wilson says nations must be willing to come up with equal rights. That way there would not be a difference between big and small nations therefore, "peace without victory" would succeed.
    #5: Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to a just regard for the opinion of mankind. "What important colonial document uses the same words?
    -The important colonial document that uses the same words is the Declaration of Independence.

    Peace or War Reading:

    #1: How did the Allies' version of a peace without treaty differ from Wilson's "peace without victory?"
    - The Allies' version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson's "peace without treaty" because the Allies insisted on taking large chunks of the loser's territory.
    #2: Why did the Allies objected to Wilson's Fourteen Points?
    - The Allies objected to Wilson's Fourteen Points because they wanted Germany to be treated harshly and called for a declaration in which the United States would have nothing to do with European Politics.
    #3: What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    - The purpose of the League of Nations was to prevent future wars.
    #4: Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson "his" League of Nations?
    - Clemenceau agreed to give Wilson "his" League of Nations because he believes that way Wilson would sign the treaty against his own Fourteen Points.
    #5: How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War 1?
    - Germany was affected by the treaties ending World War 1 because she was forced to admit that she was guilty for starting the war, all of her colonies were taken away and Germany had to pay $32 billion for the reparations of the war and for the Allied war costs. Austria Hungary was also affected by the treaties ending World War 1 because it caused Austria-Hungary to break up in different ways. These were: Poland became an independent country, a new republic of Czechosiovakia was created and Serbia became the kingdom of Yugoslavia.

    Work Cited :
    - Handout #9
    - http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/freedom/doi/text.html

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    2. Hello Hello Jerilys!!! Great blog and it was easily understandable. On the Peace or War Reading question #4 do you think Clemenceau's agreement to give Wilson "his" League of Nations could weakened Germany?

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  21. Germairy Roman
    Ms. Noce
    IB History 11
    10-27-13

    Peace Without Victory Reading:
    1. What are Wilson's objections to a peace with victory?
    Wilson's objections to a peace with victory is that trying to bring upon peace with nations that aren't on common ground would just worsen the situation. He states that "Victory would mean peace forced upon the loser," and that it would just cause humiliation and resentment. Wilson also says that the only peace that would last is a peace between equals.
    2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    According to Wilson the only way Europe can attain stability is by being undisturbed which will then grant them stability. He also said that Europe must not be a balance of power, but a community of power and not organized rivalries, but an organized common peace. Wilson is saying that all of Europe needs to be on the same page in order to attain and maintain stability.
    3. What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    The most urgent question that affects the future if mankind is the thought that peace is taken for granted. Wilson explains that when there is in fact peace followed by the end of a war that then people will believe that the newfound peace will definitely bring upon power and will cause war to never happen again.
    4. What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succeed?
    Wilson says that nations must be together and not go against each other in order for "peace without victory" to succeed. If all nations were equal then there wouldn't be any hatred or bitterness between nations when they get ahold of peace. Also if the nations were equals than their peace would last.
    5. Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to "a just regard for the opinion of mankind." What important colonial document uses the same words? You MAY need external research for this question.
    The words "a just regard for the opinion of mankind." are also found in the Declaration of Independence.

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    1. You have some really good answers ..Nice quote used on number one, do you agree with wilsons objective to a peace with victory ?

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  22. Peace or War Reading:
    1. How did the Allies' version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson's "peace without victory?"
    The Allies' version of a peace treaty differed greatly from Wilson's "peace without victory" because they were very different ideas. Wilson's "peace without victory" seemed like a more positive approach than the Allies' version of a peace treaty. Wilson was trying to band the nations together and create equality while the Allies' wanted to blame Germany for all the bad that they've done.
    2. Why did the Allies object to Wilson's Fourteen Points?
    The Allies objected to Wilson's Fourteen Points because they wanted revenge on Germany. They wanted to beat Germany and nothing was going to stop them. The Allies saw the Fourteen Points as a plot to halt their plan to attack Germany. Also Germany reached out to Wilson so he would arrange a peace treaty that was based on his Fourteen Points to try and stop the Allies from invading thei homeland.
    3. What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    The League of Nations was intended to be an organization that involved the nations of the world and would help to prevent future wars from happening. Also Wilson said that the nation that loses the war must be treated fairly.
    4. Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson "his" League of Nations?
    Clemenceau only agreed to give Wilson "his" League of Nations because of what other things can come out of it other than the prevention of future wars. Clemenceau added that if the League of Nations was given to Wilson then it can also weaken Germany in the process.
    5. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War I?
    Germany and Austria-Hungary were affected negatively by the treaties ending WWI. The Treaty of Versailles was the main peace treaty with Germany. Germany was forced to admit to solely starting the war and also had colonies taken away. The provinces of Alsace and Lorraine were returned to France after it had been taken away by Germany.
    Works Cited
    Packet #9

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  23. Stephanie Santiago
    Oct. 27, 2013
    IB History
    Ms. Noce
    PEACE WITHOUT VICTORY & PEACE OR WAR QUESTIONS
    1. WHAT ARE WILSON’S OBJECTIONS TO A PEACE WITH VICTORY?
    Wilson’s objections to a peace with victory were to influence humanity and the rights of neutral nations. He had spoken to both the Central and Entente powers to figure out ways to make peace with victory. He also said that in order to end war each consultation involving peace needed to be pursued by the powers.
    2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    As Wilson mentioned, Europe would gain stability only if they thought of a new method of peace surrounded by the nations. He also says that if Europe is calm and patient that they’ll be very stable.
    3. What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    Wilson thinks the affects to the future of mankind is this: “Is the present war a struggle for a just and secure peace, or only for a new balance of power? If it be only a struggle for a new balance of power, who will guarantee, who can guarantee, the stable equilibrium of the new arrangement? (Packet 9)
    4. What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for “peace without victory to succeed?”
    Wilson says nations have to have equal rights in order to succeed ‘peace without victory’. He doesn’t want nations to think their more powerful than others because it doesn’t matter to him. He just wants the nations to gain freedom.
    5. Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to “a regard for the opinion of mankind.” What important colonial doc uses the same words?
    Wilson had mimicked a line from the Declaration of Independence.

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  24. 1. How did the Allies’ version of a treaty differ from Wilson’s “peace without victory?”
    The Allies’ version of a peace treaty was more of a bribe. Their treaty was an agreement to own their rivals regions after their conquest. On the other hand, Wilsons “peace without victory” was more of equality and fairness between all the nations.
    2. Why did the Allies object to Wilson’s fourteen points?
    The Allies objected Wilson’s fourteen points because he wasn’t being fair with them he was trying to take advantage and have control over them.
    3. What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    The purpose of the League of Nations was to stop future conflicts/warfare between nations.
    4. Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson “his” league of nations?
    Clemenceau agreed to give Wilson “his” league of nations to prove to him that they can stop him and gain their power back from Germany. Clemenceau knew that Wilson was weak and powerless so he was winning to take a chance to overcome Wilson.
    5. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending WW1?
    Germany was affected by the treaties tremendously; they lost everything they had from weapons to colonies. They were then ruled by the Allies. Austria-Hungary was affected by getting defeated by different countries.
    CITES:
    -Packet 9
    -WWW.FirstWorldWar.com
    -http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtlD=3&psid=3898

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    1. This was an exellent blog i like how your answers were short and to the point. Very well explained

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  26. Peace Without Victory Reading:
    1. What are Wilson's objections to a peace with victory?
    Wilson's obection was to put an end to the cruel, bloddy war in a certan way to mantain the peace also in the future.

    Sources: Packet 9

    2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    In Willsons opinion, the only thing that can attian stability in Europe is the stable equilibrium. That means not different types of power allies but one big group/commutity of power that work peacefull with eachother.
    3. What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    Wilson thinks that the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind is if the stable equilibrium can really happen and if how.
    4. What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succeed?
    Wilson says that nations must be willing to work together and work for the same goal to get and mantain peace for a ''peace without victory''
    5. Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to "a just regard for the opinion of mankind." What important colonial document uses the same words?
    The words ''a just regart fot the opinion of mankind'' are also in the Declaration of Independence.

    Peace or War Reading:
    1. How did the Allies' version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson's "peace without victory?"
    The Allies' took all of the losers who fight against them. Wilson's opinion to that was that they have already lost the ballte, so why now take everything they have.
    2. Why did the Allies object to Wilson's Fourteen Points?
    The Allies were really mad and wanted to punish the loser. If they if they would stick to Wilsons fourteen points, they would not be able to do what they wat.
    3. What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    The purpose of th League of Nations was to prevent any wars in future and to not let happen this again.


    5. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War I?
    Germany and Austria-Hungary were most affected by the treaties by ending Word War One because everybody blamed them that they were the main issue that caused Word War One. Both Countries were destroied from word war one wich costed a lot of money and that also affected them a lot.

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    1. For question 1 of the peace or war reading i wasn't so sure about your answer but other than that you did fine!

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  27. William Portorreal
    IB history
    Ms. Noce
    Peace without victory:
    1. What are Wilson’s objectives to a peace with victory?
    In the quote, Wilson’s objectives to a peace with victory are that there must be a loser and that loser would accept the consequences. Wilson also said that every nation had to have equal powers so that no country would get angry because some other country had more powers than theirs.
    2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    According to Wilson the only way that Europe could attain stability was if all the countries came together as one nation and worked together.
    3. What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    The most urgent question that Wilson thinks will affect mankind in the future is who can guarantee equal powers and if the current war was just a struggle or was it for a new balanced power.
    4. What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for “peace without victory” to succeed?
    Wilson sais nations should be able to get along with each other and have equal powers for everyone in the nation in order for peace without victory to succeed
    5. Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to “a just regard for the option of mankind.” What important colonial document uses the same words?
    This quote is also in the declaration of independence
    Peace or war reading:
    1. How did the allies’ version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson’s “peace without victory?”
    The allies’ version of a peace treaty differed from Wilson’s peace without victory because the allies wanted Germany to be blamed for and to pay the consequences, while Wilson wanted everything thing to be fair.
    2. Why did the allies object to Wilson’s fourteen points?
    The allies had objected to Wilson’s fourteen points because Germany had cause to much damage to many countries including Paris as one of their big target. Many people had died due to Germany’s military.
    3. What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    The purpose of the League of Nations was to prevent any problems or war to start between any countries. The League of Nations tried to settle any disputes between any countries.
    4. Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson “his” league of nations?
    Clemenceau had agreed to give Wilson his league of nations because that way Germany would have like no power at all. This was a good thing so a war wouldn’t be able to start again.
    5. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending world war one?
    Germany was negatively affected because they had lost some territory that that had to give back to France. Germany also had to pay for the damage that had occurred in every country. Austria-Hungary had gotten a new empire since it was destroyed, and they had also had to pay for some land expenses for Serbia.
    Sources: packet #9
    School of law, Indiana university, http://www.law.indiana.edu/uslawdocs/declaration.html



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  28. Peace Without Victory Reading:
    1. What are Wilson's objections to a peace with victory?
    Wilson believes that a peace with victory will involve and even encourage a repression and humiliation of the “defeated” nations who will, in time rise up in hatred and retaliation against the previously victorious. He is for a long-lasting, preferably permanent peace, a “freedom of life (Peace without Victory)” under which to unite, not a reason for future conflict that he believes a peace with victory will involve.
    2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    The only way Woodrow Wilson sees that Europe can obtain stability is through an equal conference of nations and organized peace. He is effectively proposing a function similar to the United Nations that will oversee growing conflicts and quell them peacefully and plan together and combine forces towards harmony rather than alliances against enemies.
    3. What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    Wilson expresses his belief that, in order to move forward in a better world, mankind must question the best way to proceed in peace. He finds that the world must pool together and create a fair and just world in which equality is counted over the balance of power.
    4. What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succeed?
    In his speech, Wilson says that the success of “peace without victory” hinges on the world’s nations ability to set their differences and long-standing rivalries aside and concentrate on human rights and the right of one nation to govern themselves under their own interests, not those of their enemies. In his suggestion of an entity like the United Nations, he articulates his hope that the world can work together in a common goal and avoid another devastating world war.
    5. Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to "a just regard for the opinion of mankind." What important colonial document uses the same words? You MAY need external research for this question.
    Wilson paraphrased the Declaration of Independence’s words “a decent respect to the opinions of mankind” to use in his speech ‘Peace without Victory’. This decision of borrowing our founding father’s words may have been made to sway more patriotic citizens to agree with him, and to make hid opinions seem more valid having been backed by some of our most respected political ancestors.

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    1. I believe that your answers are really good; I see very academic language which is really good to have. Now, I felt a connection with this paper and it was interesting to me to see how the United States fought to stay neutral. Do you think that it should have stayed neutral or no?

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  29. Peace or War Reading:
    1. How did the Allies' version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson's "peace without victory?"
    The Allies drew up a peace treaty that differed in several ways from Wilson’s idea of “peace without victory”. They were intent on staking their claims on several large portions of land in the defeated countries’ territories. From the Allies’ perspective, they had, after a great loss of resources, citizens and morale, finally won this war that was initially over territory and felt they ought to be able to benefit from their pains.
    2. Why did the Allies object to Wilson's Fourteen Points?
    It was a firm belief of the Allies that, were they to go along with Wilson’s proposals outlined in his fourteen points, Germany would not feel the punishment they thought that country so deserved. The Allies thirst for a good reason and outcome to have gone to war for took over their objective views of long-term peace.
    3. What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    The League of Nations was intended to be an organization to keep peace throughout the world and bring global perspectives under scrutiny. Wilson hoped the League of Nations would allow the world’s countries to think objectively and make decisions with the safety and peace of all countries in mind, not just selfish goals. If the League of Nations worked as expected, international conflicts would become minimal and the energy of war might be redirected towards common goals.
    4. Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson "his" League of Nations?
    Clemenceau finally agreed to concede to Wilson on the matter of the League of Nations because he thought it would make the President stop insisting on the rest of his fourteen points. He also saw the League as an opportunity to punish Germany further and keep them under check and unable to rise up again.
    5. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War I?
    The various treaties following World War I greatly affected Germany and Austria-Hungary. Germany’s colonies and any territories she gained in the war were to be relinquished, Germany must agree to the guilt of instigating the war, disarm and pay reparations to the Allies of what amounted to 32 billion dollars (The Fourteen Points; Postscript). Austria-Hungary also had to submit land: Poland was given independence along with Serbia and the newfound republic of Czechoslovakia. Both countries felt the devastating impact of losing the war.

    Sources:
    "Declaration of Independence." Archiving Early America. Archiving Early America, 2013. Web. 27 Oct. 2013.
    “Peace or War?” Enjoying American History; Imperialism, Progressivism, and World War I (Handout 9).
    “The Fourteen Points” Enjoying American History; Imperialism, Progressivism, and World War I (Handout 9).
    Woodrow Wilson, speech transcript, “Fourteen Points” January 8, 1918 (Handout 9).
    Woodrow Wilson, speech transcript, “Peace without Victory” January 22, 1917 (Handout 9).

    Jack Roberts

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  30. Dinia Clairveaux
    Oct. 27, 2013
    IB History
    Ms. Noce


    Peace Without Victory Reading:
    What are Wilson's objections to a peace with victory?
    Wilson’s objections to a peace with victory was, a peace with victory would mean many nations would battle each in a war and the loser would forced by the winner to call peace as a way mercy. This would be very humiliating and unexpectable for the loser of the battle. Due to the lost the loser of the battle would develop temporary hatred against the winner of the battle, which would trigger a cycle of revenge.
    According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    the only way that Europe can maintain stability according to Wilson is she must acknowledge the difference between nations that are big, small, powerful and weak. The rights of the nations should be based upon common strength not individual ones. There must also be equality in territories and resources.
    What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    the question that Wilson thinks is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind is “the question of armaments, Weather on land or sea”because it is connected to the future wealth of the nation and humanity.
    What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succeed?
    The nations must be willing to recognize and accept the laws that governments acquire all their power from the approval the person in charge. And also all nations should be united.
    Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to "a just regard for the opinion of mankind." What important colonial document uses the same words?
    President Woodrow Wilson got the quote “"a just regard for the opinion of mankind” from
    The colonial document of the Declaration of Independence.

    Peace or War Reading:
    How did the Allies' version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson's "peace without victory?"
    The allies version of a peace treaty gives specific descriptive details of exactly what should be done for each nation, for there to be peace and equality. Unlike President Wilson's treaty is basically giving suggestions on how to attain peace and equality, and not specific details on what should be done about each nation. Just like the allies treaty states.
    Why did the Allies object to Wilson's Fourteen Points?
    The allies objected to Wilson’s fourteen points because Germany had cause them to many soldiers, Germany was hostile and very aggressive towards them. Germany had taken many of their land sank many of their ships in the war at sea.They felt that Germany should be harshly with no mercy.
    What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    The purpose of the league of nations was to keep the nations in order so there wouldn’t be another war.
    Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson "his" League of Nations?
    Clemenceau agree to give Wilson the league of nations because he new that others would go against Wilson on his peace treaty. Even the americans would support Clemenceau and and the other two men’s decision on the treaty, because many of them had backstab Wilson already; specially when he asked his people to elect more democrats and they elected more Republicans. And it would help keep Germany from gaining power again.
    How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War I?
    Germany was affected by the treaty of Versailles because she was striped of all her colonies, france gained Alsace and Lorraine back, she was completely stripped of all arms and she also paid a total of 32 million dollars for damages she cause during the war.
    Austria-Hungary empire was divided into many different parts. Czechoslovakia was created , Portland became independent, Serbia attain some land and Rumania had double the territories she had before.
    sources
    packet 9
    http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/freedom/doi/text.html
    history.state.gov/milestones/1914-1920/League

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    1. your answers are good but just have one constructive criticism. Maybe next time when coming with a blog like this, maybe you can add a little more detail and get to the question, not necessarily go straight for the answer but not add all this linked up information and not get to the answer. Balancing Out the extra info and the answer would be great nothing mayor, but besides that this is good :)

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  31. Erick Volquez
    History IB 11
    Ms.Noce
    10/27/13

    Peace without Victory Reading:

    1. What are Wilson's objections to a peace with victory?
    Wilson’s objection was composed by what he saw in World War 1 and how he saw how things would turn out. He made it clear that when it comes to having peace, there must be victory and so there needs to be a victorious side. At this point the Central powers were coming to an end so Wilson’s objection on loosing and not obtaining victory gave a boost to the Americans specifically to the United States; so United States came in and joined the alliance in the search of Peace in Victory.

    2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    Wilson said that the only way Europe can attain stability is if somehow they can come together to form a governmental friendship. He wanted to ignore any conflict that opposed his idea and he only focused on this idea of having these countries come together in a friendship. He believed that countries with a friendship meant a strong bond which would build up as a Eurocentric stable control.

    3. What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    Wilsons idea of what is the most argument question that affects the future if mankind is that everyone’s main focus isn’t on anything more than having the ability to be living somewhere and having equal rights, the of course give you the rights and you can be free. Mankind’s vision to look for freedom so that they can do anything that is desirable to them under the law.

    4. What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succeed? Wilson
    Wilson stated that the nations must be willing to come together and form a Euro Alliance so that there can be a balance between Allies and Central Powers, Europe in general. Wilson’s words went nowhere because doing this would give the victory to the Central powers so Wilsons mind immediately changed and gave the yes to USA to come in the war and seek glory.

    5. Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to "a just regard for the opinion of mankind." What important colonial document uses the same words?
    Wilson’s words that impacted the nation also made a huge impact before in the united states because this line can be found in the Declaration of Independence of the United States of America.

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  32. Peace or War Reading:
    1. How did the Allies' version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson's "peace without victory?"
    The allies’ version of a peace treaty and Wilson’s was that Wilson’s treaty wanted to Unite all the nations that were involved in WW1 and form a Central Euro-Governmental system that would actually end up giving the victory to Germany. The allies’ treaty was based upon what way they can maintain peace and settle down to putting how things were without any form of Continental alliance or anything in that area.

    2. Why did the Allies object to Wilson's Fourteen Points?
    The Allies Objected to Wilson’s Fourteen Points because these points were referring to a Continental Piece treaty that would involve the alliance and Central powers to stop but this plan gave an immediate reaction to the allies, they rejected this plan.

    3. What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    The purpose of the League of Nation was to come together and prevent war from trying to break out again. This League came after World War one with this purpose and after the Treaty of Versailles to Sit down and establish peace to the world.

    4. Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson "his" League of Nations?
    Clemenceau agreed to give Wilson “his” League of Nations because Clemenceau didn’t like the Germans so he wanted to make sure that France was well treated and there was a way to prevent any future German attacks towards France. Wilson agreed since United States was part of the alliance so it was done.

    5. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War I?
    Germany and Austria-Hungary were seriously affected by the treaties after world war one. This was because the Allies punished the losing side which was the Central powers. These punishments composed of Germany and Austria-Hungary losing mayor Economic and resourceful properties that were given to the Allies.
    WORK CITED:
    Packet 9
    "League of Nations." League of Nations. Enquiries@historylearningsite.co.uk, 2000. Web. 25 Oct. 2013.

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    1. Hi Erick, very well written and phrased essay.
      I felt you drifted away a bit on question 4 of "Peace without victory" at the end, I was a bit confused in that final part regarding the answer to the question.
      I also feel the answer to question 2 of "Peace or War" could have been elaborated a bit more.
      Great essay anyways!

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  33. ESSAY:
    PEACE WITHOUT VICTORY
    1. What are Wilson’s objections to a peace with victory?
    Wilson argues that when there is a victor, peace is indeed instituted, but forcefully and shamefully to the loser nation. In this humiliation, the loser gains resentment towards the victor and will quite probably start another war in order to get revenge.
    2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    Wilson says that in order for Europe to remain balanced, the balance must not be in power, but in a “common peace” as he puts it. He mentions that although there will never be equity in land, resources or power, at least there must be equity of right and of common strength among nations
    3. What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    Wilson states that this immensely important question at the time is: “Is the present war a struggle for a just and secure peace, or only for a new balance of power? If it only be a struggle for a new balance of power, who will guarantee, who can guarantee, the stable equilibrium of the new arrangement?”Wilson means that if the war in Europe is a war to achieve a new order of power, who will be the one to keep this new order stable? He thinks that it is up to America to help achieve this balance.
    4. What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for “peace without victory” to succeed?
    Wilson insists that in order for his “peace without victory” to work out, nations must forget concepts of superiority and ignore their selfish goals; that there must be no difference between a great country and a weak country. Peace, according to Wilson, will only truly last when all sides are equal.
    5. Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to “a just regard for the opinion of mankind.” What important colonial document uses the same words?
    This phrase comes from a very important document of United States history, it comes from the Declaration of Independence.
    PEACE OR WAR?
    1. How did the Allies’ version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson’s “peace without victory”?
    The Allies blamed the entire war on Germany and wanted Germany to pay enormous reparations to the countries attacked by them; whereas Wilson advocated for his peace treaty without any victor (the Allies) punishing any loser (Germany).
    2. Why did the Allies object to Wilson’s Fourteen Points?
    The Allies were enraged by Germany’s actions and demanded that Germany was to be punished and should suffer the consequences. The Allied powers also thought that the decision to punish Germany was what the population would unanimously agree with.
    3. What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    The purpose of this League was to resolve future conflicts peacefully. Instead of starting a war, countries would instead meet and negotiate the terms peacefully and solve the conflict without a war.
    4. Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson “his” League of Nations?
    Clemenceau thought that Wilson was to use all in his power to create the League of Nations, using all his power he was going to “wear out” and stop bothering the Allies. He also thought that the League of Nations could be used by them, in other words the Allies could “play by Wilson’s rules” to punish and keep Germany weak.
    5. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War 1?
    Germany was, to put it in kinder words, humiliated after the War. Their army was to be completely dismantled and disarmed, they were forced to admit their guilt in causing the war, German economy was now going to be controlled by the Allies, all of their colonies were to be taken away by the Allies, Alsace-Lorraine was given back to France, and to top it off they had to pay $32 billion in reparations and war costs. Austria-Hungary did not suffer as much as Germany, but its existence as a country was removed. Austria-Hungary was disintegrated; it broke off into Czechoslovakia, Rumania and Yugoslavia.
    SOURCES:
    Handout #9

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    1. I really like your blog ! You really explained your details really well. But as to criticize i think you should of use better wording and structure to answer the questions. But overall I think you did a good job!

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  34. Naomie Bourdeau
    IB World History
    October 27, 2013

    Peace without Victory Reading:
    1) What are Wilson's objections to a peace with victory?
    -His objective was very specific and clear, he basically believes that they should stop the violence in the war, and stop all the vulgar fights. No more of the shedding of blood.

    2) According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    -According to Wilson the only way Europe can attain stability is by showing equality and also the power must be balanced in the corrected way. Everything has to be fair and equal so people could have equal rights.

    4) What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    Wilson thinks the most urgent question the affects the future of mankind was “Is a present war a struggle for a just and secure peace or only for a new balance of power”.

    5) What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succeed? Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to a just regard for the opinion of mankind." What important colonial document uses the same words?
    -He basically says that they must follow his rules and basically stop the violence. The important colonial document the uses the same words is the Declaration of Independence.

    Peace or War Reading:
    6) How did the Allies' version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson's "peace without victory?
    -It differ because the allies version was more of rules and regulations , it discussed what to do and what not to do verses Wilson’s were he just wants equality and fairness.

    7) Why did the Allies object to Wilson's Fourteen Points?
    -They objected because they aimed them to a peace treaty and it would of caused the Central and Allied powers to discontinue.
    8) What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    - The purpose of the League of Nations were to bring everyone as one and stop the wars and the violence.
    9) Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson "his" League of Nations?
    - He agreed to it because he personally did not like Germany and it would also stop them from gaining power because they were very powerful at the time.

    10) How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War I?
    -They were affected by the treaties because they had rough downfalls. Germany had lost many of there arms and had millions of damaged that was due. But Austria- Hungary had been broken up. Some of those parts had gained there independence.

    Work Cited
    Packet 9

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  37. Jalexis Ruiz
    IB History
    Ms.Noce

    Peace Without Victory Reading:

    1. What are Wilson's objections to a peace with victory?
    Wilsons objections to a peace with victory were that victory meant peace upon the loser. But in the text it says “it would be embarrassing if the loser was coming from a winner” cause that would just make the loser mad.
    2. According to Wilson, what is the only way Europe can attain stability?
    According to wilson the only way Europe can attain stability is that they have to stable the equilibrium. And that is because the community power and the workers almost have the same connections with their peace’s.
    3. What does Wilson think is the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind?
    Wilson’s thought of the most urgent question that affects the future of mankind is that the present war was a struggle for a secure peace or only for a new balance of power ? Second question is , if it would only be a struggle for a new balance of power , who will guarantee , the stable equilibrium of the new arrangement? Those are the most urgent questions that may affect the future of mankind in wilson’s thought.
    4. What does Wilson say nations must be willing to do in order for "peace without victory" to succeed?
    What wilson says about nations must be willing to do in order for “peace without victory” to succeed because he wants the present war to finish first so then there could be peace without victory. That is because he doesn’t want war to to continue he wants every country to be at peace. But what wilson try’s to express is that the only one that can end it the war’s are the mankind.
    5. Wilson says he is presenting his ideas in part due to "a just regard for the opinion of mankind." What important colonial document uses the same words?
    An important colonial document that Wilson uses the same words could be “just a regard of the opinion of mankind” . That is from the Declaration of Indepence.





    Peace or War Reading:

    1. How did the Allies' version of a peace treaty differ from Wilson's "peace without victory? The allies version of a peace of treaty was different from wilsons “peace without victory “ because wilson wanted to have peace and the allies won’t stop until they get victory. The Allies wanted germany to pay for everything they have done.
    2.Why did the Allies object to Wilson's Fourteen Points ?
    The allies object to wilsons Fourteen points was that they didn’t want peace they will fight and got to war until damage is done they didn’t like wilsons fourteen points.
    3. What was the purpose of the League of Nations?
    The purpose of the League of nations was that they tried to hold back from other countries from starting wars and what they would do is send one person from each side to go talk it out and settle things.
    4. Why did Clemenceau agree to give Wilson "his" League of Nations?
    The way Clemenceau agreed to give wilson “his” league of nations was that he thought wilson was doing the right thing when he brought it up. Clemenceau thought it was a good idea to have germany under watch and under control so they won’t have anymore wars.
    5. How were Germany and Austria-Hungary affected by the treaties ending World War I?
    Germany and Austria-Hungary were affected by the treaties ending world war 1 because germany had to take the blame for the start of the war and for austria hungary also got blamed so they both had to paid for all the damage they did.


    work sites:
    Handout Nine
    http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html

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